Varying Styles

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Hi! So in my previous thread in the greet section, I made mention of learning Shorin-Ryu, Goju-Ryu, and Isshin-Ryu. In that order too. But I'm concerned about the shock of changing styles. Can that be avoided if I did Shito-Ryu between Shorin and Goju? Also... from what I've read thus far I don't need an extra style for between Goju-Ryu and Isshin-Ryu.
 
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Dude...this is like trying to plan out your entire academic career on the first day of Kindergarten.

It's absolutely fantastic that you're excited about this new thing that you're doing. But slow down and enjoy the process for now. Focus on Shorin-Ryu. Don't worry about whatever else may come. It may be that...
  • You decide to dedicate yourself wholly to Shorin-Ryu because you really enjoy that school and the people there, and you do solely Shorin-Ryu for decades.
  • You decide after a month that martial arts isn't for you and quit before you go back to whatever it was you were doing before.
Or any number of things in-between those two extremes, such as:
  • There isn't any Goju-Ryu or Isshin-Ryu in your area, or there is but you end up not enjoying the classes.
  • You move somewhere else and those aren't available in that area.
  • After doing a few years of Shorin-Ryu, you decide that instead of sticking solely with Karate, you want to try a different martial art. Maybe Taekwondo, maybe Judo, maybe something else.
There's a lot of things that could happen between now and whenever you may start something else. Don't worry about what's going on with your PHD while you're still learning the basics. Don't worry about the next project when this one is barely started.
 
Hi! So in my previous thread in the greet section, I made mention of learning Shorin-Ryu, Goju-Ryu, and Isshin-Ryu. In that order too. But I'm concerned about the shock of changing styles. Can that be avoided if I did Shito-Ryu between Shorin and Goju? Also... from what I've read thus far I don't need an extra style for between Goju-Ryu and Isshin-Ryu.
I second what Skribs mentioned. Choose one style and focus on that. I couldn't even fathom trying to fit in another style right now while I am focusing on Kenpo, and I have a learned quite a bit of the Kenpo system I practice. Why? Because after learning the material, you then want to do it over and over and over. Trying to fit too much on your plate is overwhelming.
 
I just figured that once I reach black belt in Shorin-Ryu, I can move on to the next style. One step at a time. I'm not here to show off.
 
Wanting to learn Okinawan karate is a great choice!!!! (I may be a little bit biased, here ;).)
I made mention of learning Shorin-Ryu, Goju-Ryu, and Isshin-Ryu. In that order too.
Let me ask, why do you want to learn all these styles, rather than just getting deep into one?
Can that be avoided if I did Shito-Ryu between Shorin and Goju?
IMO, going from Shorin to Shito would be a bigger "shock."
 
I just figured that once I reach black belt in Shorin-Ryu, I can move on to the next style. One step at a time. I'm not here to show off.
I'm not saying that you're here to show off.

I'm just saying that you're diving into something totally new. Let the progress happen naturally. Let the evolution of your martial art journey happen while you walk it.

You're going to spend the next few months learning what martial arts actually is. Not what movies have shown you or what you've read online. But what actually goes into learning martial arts. What's real and what's fake from what you've seen in Hollywood. What you do and don't like. What comes naturally to you and what takes work.

Then you're going to spend the next few years learning what your journey is going to be. You'll have some huge epiphanies, some game-changing revelations. And you'll start to identify the things that you don't like about Shorin-Ryu, and start to hear from others where the grass might be greener. It's going to be in those moments that you decide if you want to keep focusing on Shorin-Ryu, or if you want to try something else. It's going to be those moments that you decide what that something else is.

Let's see what you think when you get your first stripe (if you have stripes in that style). Or your first belt. Or when you move from the "beginner" belts to the "intermediate" or "advanced" belts. Let's see what you think when you get your black belt. If you compete, does that affect your plans?

There's a lot that can change, and right now you're just building your foundation of understanding. Don't get ahead of that part of your journey.
 
Goju-Ryu is the real life style that Miyagi-do in the Karate Kid franchise. Goju-Ryu and Shorin-Ryu are on the different sides of the same coin. And that coin is called Isshin-Ryu.

Shito-Ryu helps one transition from Shorin-Ryu to Goju-Ryu.

I hope that clears things up.
 
I just figured that once I reach black belt in Shorin-Ryu, I can move on to the next style. One step at a time. I'm not here to show off.
Your thoughts on Karate might be a consequence of your inspiration being Cobra Kai! 🙄😉

First Dan/blackbelt is, in the USA, sometimes described as ‘first degree’. The analogy is quite a good one because it takes 3-5 years to achieve (in a reputable, non-McDojo) and requires dedication, hard work and commitment. By the time you’ve earned it, you’ll likely be committed and loyal to your lineage; you won’t want to swap and change as you’ll be inspired to go for ‘higher degrees’ to advance into higher realms of knowledge and ability (like being able to levitate as most of us on this forum are able). There’s also the issue of a particular style being so ingrained into your mind/body by dedicated, repetition, that it’s often difficult prevent inadvertent intermingling of certain aspects.

I’m not saying it’s impossible to do what you want to do, but I think it’s uncommon. I wonder how many people on here have Dan grades in multiple styles of Karate (Cobra Sh*te not included 🐍💩)?

Try all three to whittle them down to the one you prefer and stick to it.
 
Goju-Ryu is the real life style that Miyagi-do in the Karate Kid franchise. Goju-Ryu and Shorin-Ryu are on the different sides of the same coin. And that coin is called Isshin-Ryu.

Shito-Ryu helps one transition from Shorin-Ryu to Goju-Ryu.

I hope that clears things up.
You're a bit confused, making such statements without any full understanding or experience. All the responses to your post have been spot on - take them to heart. BTW, I started my study of Isshinryu in 1966.

Isshinryu founder Shimabuku had reached the equivalent skill of at least 6th degree black (IMO) in Shorinryu before starting Goju.
 
Goju-Ryu is the real life style that Miyagi-do in the Karate Kid franchise. Goju-Ryu and Shorin-Ryu are on the different sides of the same coin. And that coin is called Isshin-Ryu.

Shito-Ryu helps one transition from Shorin-Ryu to Goju-Ryu.

I hope that clears things up.
It doesn't clear things up.

Everything about this post is simply untrue.

While I believe it is true that both are Okinawan styles and share a lineage, they are not defined by their relationship to each other. And I'm not aware of any style of martial arts that's purpose is to make it easier for a black belt in one art to transition to another. You would transition to the other by transitioning to the other.

Your "I hope that clears things up" makes it sound like you're stating these as objective facts, but they clearly aren't.
 
Shorin-Ryu focuses on shuri-te and Goyu-Ryu focuses on Naha-te. Shito-Ryu uses both. That's why I said that it takes place in between. Isshin-Ryu is the culmination of all.
 
Shorin-Ryu focuses on shuri-te and Goyu-Ryu focuses on Naha-te. Shito-Ryu uses both. That's why I said that it takes place in between. Isshin-Ryu is the culmination of all.
And MMA uses everything, but nobody uses MMA to transition from one art to another. In fact it's usually the opposite, they transition to another art first.
 
I just figured that once I reach black belt in Shorin-Ryu, I can move on to the next style. One step at a time. I'm not here to show off.
didn't think you were showing off, but a lot can happen between now and when you get your black belt. One step at a time
 
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I just figured that once I reach black belt in Shorin-Ryu, I can move on to the next style. One step at a time. I'm not here to show off.
Your 1st MA style is used to build your foundation. It usually takes about 6 years. After that, you then find your 2nd MA style that can enhance some areas that your primary style is weak. Without spending enough time in your primary style, you truly don't know what you will need to enhance.
 
Goju-Ryu is the real life style that Miyagi-do in the Karate Kid franchise. Goju-Ryu and Shorin-Ryu are on the different sides of the same coin. And that coin is called Isshin-Ryu.

Shito-Ryu helps one transition from Shorin-Ryu to Goju-Ryu.

I hope that clears things up.
Yes you’re on to something, Goju-ryu and Shito-ryu are the pillars of Miyagi-do.

The ”founder” of Karate Kid is a Goju-tyu dude and the stand in for Morita(Miyagi-do) was a Shito-ryu master.


Interview with Robert Mark Kamen, Screenwriter of The Karate Kid– The second part | BUDO JAPAN - Japanese martial-arts
 
There is context to that comment I made…albeit tenuous!
 
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