Union thug verbally assaults teenager at rally

[Bruno@MT]

the use of the word assault depends on where you are. In my state Assault is verbal, battery is physical. Well it was it has since changed like 4 or 5 years ago to now we just have assault that covers both. But prior to that if you hit someone it was battery not assault.
And how is my balls on your nose not sexual content?

But you keep playing the party line its ok but I know it and you know it if this happened to your kid you would be pissed off you just cant say it on here because this time its your side that wrong. At least I'm honest enough to say it when my side is wrong.

Oh for the love of all that is holy: I have never said that it would be ok.
I just said I do not consider it assault, or grounds for beating him up.

What does that have to do with party lines? Especially considering that I am not an American and think that both parties are being idiots.
I don't HAVE a side in this political context.

 

[Flea]

because its a political rally and well hes been out there for days so he got carried away that makes it ok.

Again Ballen, I explicitly stated that his comment was not okay:

It doesn't make his comment okay,

But it doesn't matter. If you're going to race to the bottom with a snide those people argument, I'm tuning you out. There's no point engaging with a mentality like that. You have fun now.

Oh so your one of the to the 2 wrongs people huh.

 

[LuckyKBoxer]

Why are you so intent in putting words in people's mouths? That's not what she has been saying.

It was an insult, not used in a sexual context, at a political rally where the kid was annoying some of the protesters. Or do you think that the words 'f... you' should also be treated in a sexual context?

there is no relativism when it comes to adults abusing kids in any manner.
when an adult tells a kid if he knows what teabagging is and then explains its when he puts his balls on the kids face under his nose... thats verbal assault.... its intimidation... its putting an image in the kids head that is unwarranted, unwanted, and unsolicited.

 

[ballen0351]

Why are you so intent in putting words in people's mouths? That's not what she has been saying.

It was an insult, not used in a sexual context, at a political rally where the kid was annoying some of the protesters. Or do you think that the words 'f... you' should also be treated in a sexual context?

I didnt put words in her mouth it was a question see the ? at the end? I asked if she would be ok with it.

So handing out the Constitution is now annoying. No he should have said "no Thanks" I dont want your constitution and then ignored him. At least thats what I do to annoying kids that are not mine because well they are kids

 

[ballen0351]

Again Ballen, I explicitly stated that his comment was not okay:

Yes you said it was not ok then gave several reason why it was ok.

 

[granfire]

WTF is wrong with some of you people???

the fact is that the kid is 17, thats still considered a minor.
the old dude is clearly presenting dialogue of a sexual manner to the, in the eyes of the law, child.

If this was my kid that guy would have a very different life atm.

are some of you so damn stuck on your stupid party line, and your stupid union biases that you think its ok for an adult to discuss any type of sexual context with a child of any age unsolicited, unwanted, and unnecessarily...

you disgust me.

Sorry, but I live in the real world, not political LaLa Land.

Don't give the poop about '17 being a child'
By law this child is allowed to join the armed forces and drive a car.
He may not vote, true, nor drink or smoke, but that is another story. (Kind of makes you wonder why a 'child' is at a political ralley....)

Anyhow I have seen 17 year old boys, and they are hardly angels. And the ones that get the vapors upon discussing above mentioned, those I'd be worried about. But that's not political, nor sexual.

First of all, where I stand on the political agenda has nothing to do with it..
Further more, you underestimate the exposure kids have, overestimate the purity of your kid. I know I consider my kid to be as pure as the new fallen snow, but sometimes he lets it show through that he readt stuff and talks about stuff with his peers. Certainly an 'aha' moment for mom, even though I do consider myself 'cool' and 'in the loop' A misconception I suppose all parents have to face. Heck, I still don't tell my parents everything....

I grant you that young adults most often don't have the tools to deal with certain breeches of boundaries from older people. That is part due to lack of personal experience and culture enforced control. But in most cases a 'WHOA, man, too much info' uttered by just about anybody should do it. Naturally more sarcastic retorts don't come easy (and take an amount of experience young people often don't have and I don't mean in the actual act of said practices, just general in how to deal with people)

Don't get me wrong. I know most words that are not in the dictionary, can be crude, rude and outright vulgar. I choose not to, for various reasons, but it makes for greater impact when I choose to turn the air blue.

It has nothing to do with party line. And frankly it is insulting to be lumped into a heap and basically labeled unpatriotic because you don't follow popular line. Frankly nobody in this country has a faintest idea what socialism is, or communism. And in some time it has deteriorated into the absurd: republican is what the white folks vote, democrats is for the black folks and those communists. and all those unpatriotic people. I have had many people - people I do consider dear friends - tell me that they vote straight up party line. Only on a local level they'd consider the guy 'from the other side' on personality.

Political line has become a farce. They put on a good show, rake in the money and go out for drinks later on, while 'the people' tear into each other over agenda that isn't.

One dirty old man told a young man about the meaning behind the insult of 'tea bagger' (which btw I had to look up, it never appeared on my radar before the Tea Party made the head lines) and it is turned into this communist conspiracy to corrupt our clean cut patriotic youth....it has nothing to do with party book (which I don't carry any) when you find that connection absurd. (and when the old man thought he could tell the young man something new....)

So what was it you find disgusting?

 

[Xue Sheng]

OK I watched the video…whoopee doopee… more sensationalist news… we need more of this because lord knows we don’t have enough already

The guy is a jerk and it appears that he is insulting the 17 year old not propositioning him but then who really knows other than the guy that said it. And I would not be happy if anyone said that to a child of mine however I do not think popping him would have been the proper response either. Maybe you missed it in the video but the police were there so if it was a real issue he could have reported the guy but if he hit the guy it would have been an assault

I did not see Thugs, Communists, Socialists or Assault

Yes you said it was not ok then gave several reason why it was ok.

And no, no flea didn't. I read through all of this mess and I did not see where she advocated in any way.

Could it be you are so laser focused on what the guy said that you are blind to what is being said here?

Could it be time to step back, take a breath and look at it again later?

 

[ballen0351]

And no, no flea didn't. I read through all of this mess and I did not see where she advocated in any way.

Could it be you are so laser focused on what the guy said that you are blind to what is being said here?

Could it be time to step back, take a breath and look at it again later?

The situation has been going on for days, and no doubt everyone there is getting very cranky and worn out. Excuse #1 for the behavior



People say stoopit things at a time like that. Excuse #2



It doesn't make his comment okay, but it certainly doesn't constitute an "assault." Down play of behavior

His voice was quiet and level, and he made no physical movement toward the kid.
Down play


More to the point, he's right - it's an accurate description of the practice Excuse #3

We're all human and we're all prone to get carried away on issues we care about Excuse #4

 

[Xue Sheng]

The situation has been going on for days, and no doubt everyone there is getting very cranky and worn out.

Excuse #1 for the behavior



People say stoopit things at a time like that. Excuse #2



It doesn't make his comment okay, but it certainly doesn't constitute an "assault." Down play of behavior

His voice was quiet and level, and he made no physical movement toward the kid.
Down play


More to the point, he's right - it's an accurate description of the practice Excuse #3

We're all human and we're all prone to get carried away on issues we care about Excuse #4

First let’s put the whole thing in context

Honestly? That opening sentence told me everything I needed to know about the story. Not because it described the incident, but because the choice of language was so absurdly hyperbolic and biased. Political pagans? Good grief.

The situation has been going on for days, and no doubt everyone there is getting very cranky and worn out. People say stoopit things at a time like that. It doesn't make his comment okay, but it certainly doesn't constitute an "assault." His voice was quiet and level, and he made no physical movement toward the kid. More to the point, he's right - it's an accurate description of the practice (or so I'm told ) His comment was way out of turn, but it's absurd to call it an assault of any kind.

We're all human and we're all prone to get carried away on issues we care about. Personally I've seen worse from conservatives - I used to escort patients through the protesters at my city's abortion clinic, and I was routinely threatened and assaulted by people festooned with crucifixes preaching Jesus' unconditional love. But their behavior is okay because they're doing God's work, and God is love.

And now let’s add the bit you appeared to have missed

It doesn't make his comment okay, but it certainly doesn't constitute an "assault."

Now what are you trying to prove exactly because I'm confused at this point.

Are you trying to prove sexual assault or assault or that the guy should not have said that to the 17 year old or what?

You did say she said it was ok

Yes you said it was not ok then gave several reason why it was ok.

And from what I read, and just posted, she never did say it was ok.

 

[Xue Sheng]

The situation has been going on for days, and no doubt everyone there is getting very cranky and worn out. Excuse #1 for the behavior



People say stoopit things at a time like that. Excuse #2



It doesn't make his comment okay, but it certainly doesn't constitute an "assault." Down play of behavior

His voice was quiet and level, and he made no physical movement toward the kid.
Down play


More to the point, he's right - it's an accurate description of the practice Excuse #3

We're all human and we're all prone to get carried away on issues we care about Excuse #4

First let’s put the whole thing in context

Honestly? That opening sentence told me everything I needed to know about the story. Not because it described the incident, but because the choice of language was so absurdly hyperbolic and biased. Political pagans? Good grief.

The situation has been going on for days, and no doubt everyone there is getting very cranky and worn out. People say stoopit things at a time like that. It doesn't make his comment okay, but it certainly doesn't constitute an "assault." His voice was quiet and level, and he made no physical movement toward the kid. More to the point, he's right - it's an accurate description of the practice (or so I'm told ) His comment was way out of turn, but it's absurd to call it an assault of any kind.

We're all human and we're all prone to get carried away on issues we care about. Personally I've seen worse from conservatives - I used to escort patients through the protesters at my city's abortion clinic, and I was routinely threatened and assaulted by people festooned with crucifixes preaching Jesus' unconditional love. But their behavior is okay because they're doing God's work, and God is love.

And now let’s add the bit you appeared to have missed

It doesn't make his comment okay, but it certainly doesn't constitute an "assault." (point you omitted)

Now what are you trying to prove exactly because I'm confused at this point.

Are you trying to prove sexual assault or assault or that the guy should not have said that to the 17 year old or what?

And you did say she said it was ok

Yes you said it was not ok then gave several reason why it was ok.

And from what I read, and just posted of flea's post, she never did say it was ok.

 

[bushidomartialarts]

Another example of the sort of behavior that IMHO is the biggest problem in this country.

The old guy was out of line. No argument. He might even have been perving on the kid.

But our friend didn't post this because the man was out of line. He posted because the man disagrees with his political views. Had the exact same thing happened at a Republican rally, our friend would be defending the old guy.

We won't be the nation we deserve until we all can look past the divisive manipulation of party leadership and start analyzing ideas and behavior based on their merits - not on whose mouth it they come out of.

 

[granfire]

Another example of the sort of behavior that IMHO is the biggest problem in this country.

The old guy was out of line. No argument. He might even have been perving on the kid.

But our friend didn't post this because the man was out of line. He posted because the man disagrees with his political views. Had the exact same thing happened at a Republican rally, our friend would be defending the old guy.

We won't be the nation we deserve until we all can look past the divisive manipulation of party leadership and start analyzing ideas and behavior based on their merits - not on whose mouth it they come out of.

You make too much sense...