I meant on the feet I will give you Lenenger but he had a gi on. You know how that goes, he may be my boy but he wasn't to bright to leave the gi on. Otsuka had alot of damage done on the feet which isn't what I meant. Ken has got power on the feet and his hands are better but still not on the level. I think ortiz is going to come out the better striker and ken is going to have the power behind his on the feet.
What I meant is Ken has been a guy that would go for submission before striking, Kimo, Severn, Felx Mitchel. That will cost him agianst a good ADCC grappler tito ortiz.