No disrespect but a few questions for clarification if I may. Note I have not trained in either and happend to be at an event with Dillman teaching as well as others.
** No problem. As Master Thomas once said to me ... "You should be skeptical until the techniques are proven to you."
Is it true that some of Dillman's students brought court cases against him as they have long term nerve damage for the number of times they had knock outs activated?
** I've never heard this. But I'll call Chris as ask. He's never been hesitant to tell me anything.
Would you think this is to hide the technique? Or would you say this is to teach a basic first, but he does his level of understanding when he executes?
** Since I don't know Oyata, I can't really say. Some of the DKI guys, after speaking with him about it, have come to the conclusion it was to hide the technique.
What results would one expect?
** I've experienced everything from mild to extreme body reactions ... to dizzyness, headaches, brief loss of motor function and brief loss of conciousness.
I understand the warming up of nerve centers, but is I wonder as I do not see you, so understand my question, if you hit the head or neck hard enough the brain sloshes which causes a knock out or the buzz feel. This can also happen under rotational strikes when the neck runs out of travel room. There is also the compression of the spine. Do these count as PP strikes as well? Curious
** Going light is not to warm up the nerve centers ... it's to keep from hurting them needlessly. When properly applied, you don't cause concussion, compression or hyper extension. This is what I really like about it. A smaller, weaker person can have the same effect as a larger, stronger person. Last month at the KJK annual gatering in Madison, I watched a skinny 5 foot 6 inch man completely incapacitate a 6 foot 5 inch man. The big guy dropped like a bag of wet cement using the Gall Bladder Cluster on the forehead.
That being said, concussion is a great back up to pp strikes ... if you know what I mean. There is a saying at the Kyusho Jitsu Kenkukai that Master Thomas founded ... "Blunt trauma is my friend."
Is it possible for permanent damage?
** It's possible to cause permanent damage with blunt trauma by accident ... I would assume the same for pp techniques. I understand that repeated striking of the Stomach 25 point without the benefit of restoration techniques can result in an acid reflux state. I would assume the same for the other points.
I have a video of some medical testing that was done with George and several ukes. George would incapacitate them and wait while the doctors checked vital signs, blood pressure, blood oxygen levels, brain function, heart rate, etc ... once the levels were recorded, George would wake them up. A synopsis of the results is in one of the books, I think. But basically the ukes response looked rather normal. One observer mentioned that the response looked kind of like a system reset ... and they could find no alarming changes in the body's vitals.
These are great questions. Thanks for your patience and kindness.
Now ... an opinion of mine. I prefer to train with Chris Thomas rather than George Dillman. I've met George and he is a very nice man ... but I prefer Chris' teaching style. He's more like a college professor and I'm very comfortable with that. Perhaps it's because I approach the material the same way ... at least that's what my students say.
