Kickboxer101
Master Black Belt
Probably best thing to do is stop now over Christmas I don't know if your place stays open during these weeks but take the time off come back in new year see how you feel
Thanking of quitting for a while.
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Ironbear24
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Martial arts tournaments, more like kyokyushin rules are what my goals are. UFC and MMA are things I have little interest in, maybe in the future but at the moment I'm not. I am not looking to be remembered by the entire world or anything. Just want to be remembered for more than being an average guy.
The reality is that the better you get - and the better you understand what you're doing - the more you will be able to see where the flaws are.
Dunning–Kruger effect - Wikipedia
It doesn't necessarily mean you're stuck, just that you're more focused on the flaws you're seeing than on the progress you're making.
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Ironbear24
Senior Master
If getting beat up often is progress then I am doing incredible. There is simply no newer students anymore, they all left. I am the only one among lightning fast 130 pound high ranks who I can barely touch. I don't see the strikes most of the time until it is already on it's way back from already having connected.
The problem is I do not even know how to get better, the people outside of the dojo I can practice with are all large guys who I knew from weight lifting and well, they are slow as well and easier for me to block. So practicing with them seems to not do anything for me. Once in awhile they slip one by but the majority of the time it doesn't happen.
I feel like I am too slow and "weighed down" to even be competent. I don't mind the pain of getting hit, it doesn't bother me, I can go back and get hit more and more and laugh it off. It is the constant failure over and over that is frustrating.
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Kickboxer101
Master Black Belt
Well what do you expect to be able to destroy everyone in the club to be the best in the club, if you were then that would be bad because you wouldn't be learning then
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Ironbear24
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I edited the post to explain more. Even then I guess your answer still applies.
Headhunter
Senior Master
Look I'm sorry to tell you this but simply the only people who care about your martial arts are your training partners and teachers no one outside of martial arts is going to care how good you are. Do you really care how good your friend is at football or basketball? Your martial arts will just be a foot note to you as person. The thing is you are an average guy I'm an average guy, everyone's an average guy martial arts do not make you more of a man. The only people who care about martial artists are martial artists and even then I know who's good and I respect their abilities but it doesn't make me think any more of them. There are some I know who are good but are horrible people who I can't stand.
Kickboxer101
Master Black Belt
Yes because everyone gets hit no matter how good you are you will still get punched you could train for 100 years and someone can still land a punch that's the way it is
Enter a competition against your peers, see how you do.
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Ironbear24
Senior Master
Of course I do. I actually have gone out of my way to help them with these things. Even though I am horrible at basketball I have helped friends practice their drills and such. They are my friends and seeing them succeed would make me happy. It's the same with weight lifting, everyone in that community is usually very motivating and helpful. We all generally want each other to succeed.
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
Wanting to be remembered for your martial arts prowess is an odd desire, in my opinion.
I would rather my family and friends remember me for being kind and loving and fun to be with. I would rather my son remember me for being a great dad who taught him a lot about life and had a lot of good times with.
And the people with whom i am or have been involved in martial arts, I hope they remember me for those same things.
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Ironbear24
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I don't want children. Never have and never will.
Ah. Now I think I see part of the issue. Are you newer to the art than all these other guys? When I was a purple belt, I'd have sucked compared to the black belts (two ranks higher, at least) on most things. But I had the green belts and blue belts to make me feel better about myself, because I was better than them.
See, you've got nobody left you outclass, so you only get to see yourself getting hit. Those "lightning fast" guys are hitting each other (and you), so they're getting to fail and succeed. If they are faster, it may be that you're carrying more power. A heavyweight boxer would get hit a lot by an equally-skilled flyweight, because the latter will normally be faster. But the heavyweight only needs one solid hit to end the match. If he measures himself based on number of hits, he kinda sucks. If he gets that one good hit in, though...
These guys who outclass you can actually help you, but it won't happen during sparring. You need to develop some drills and exercises you can do with these guys where you slow things down, and work on how to get more efficient so you can work more effectively against them. They probably know what you can do...it's whatever they keep hoping you won't do. Once you've worked on those things a bit, use the sparring to find out if they worked and what to tweak next.
This has to do with psychological motivation tendencies. Allport would probably refer to this as an "individualistic" motivation, which is about being recognized for expertise or ability. Each person has their own tendency to prefer motivation in one or two areas.
I don't know, Ironbear, my dad tells me it's a good way to get out of mowing your own lawn in a few years.
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Ironbear24
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We were doing a drill. It started out fine, until they were told to go as fast as possible. Plus this was a drill where we have he option to slap or punch, for whatever reason and I don't know why, the punch is always easier o block than and open palm.
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Ironbear24
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I used to tell myself I'd never like sushi. Now I do, so maybe that will change but as of now neither me or my gf want children. She loves having her figure and is afraid that would ruin her body, and I'm afraid it would destroy my bank.
What the hell... I'll add one: Winners Never Quit and Quitters Never Win. Always worked for me.
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
That's ok, absolutely nothing wrong with that.
But I hope you understand the point I'm making.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
Well "don’t cry over spilt milk", and remember "when it rains, it pours". Don't use Cliches myself, I generally "Avoid them like the plague". So "don't beat yourself up" for using 2 many Cliches, "Every cloud has a silver lining" and one should "not judge a book by its cover". But, this "begs the question", what is Ironbear24 to do..... beyond that “The rest is history.”
