Teaching MMA as Muay Thai

Hal Carleton

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I recently took a free class at a MMA/Muay Thai/BJJ gym and the instructor seemed to be teaching a MMA variant of Muay Thai. The stance was closer to that of a boxer, keeping elbows in and hands close to the face. This is different from what I have seen in pure Muay thai fights and training.

Being new to Muay thai I am unsure what to think about this. Is this common in the states(or elsewhere)? Should avoid this style of Muay thai and look for something more traditional or will I be ok learning this MMA type of Muay thai?

I would like to say that I do respect the instructor as an MMA fighter and instructor. I just have little to no interest in fighting MMA myself.
 

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MMA is Mixed Martial Arts. It means they dont teach things purely, they blend using those Bases.

If you want "Pure" MT, go get it. Just dont forget that variations arent always bad.

And REMEMBER: In MT, theres less Grappling, and less Variants. The Stance NEEDS to be different to Accomodate for that. You dont go to an MMA Gym to learn MT. You go to an MMA Gym, and you learn their Techniques which function on Bases. All the Strikes will be MT, or MT Variants. The Stance is probably a stance with one hand near the Ear and the other near the Chin. Thats how it works.

And if you dont want to Fight MMA, why go to an MMA Gym, to learn MT? :)
 
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Hal Carleton

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MMA is Mixed Martial Arts. It means they dont teach things purely, they blend using those Bases.

If you want "Pure" MT, go get it. Just dont forget that variations arent always bad.

I realize that it isn't bad, and didn't mean to give that impression. It is just not what I'm looking for.

As far as going and getting it, I don't know of any gyms that teach traditional Muay thai in my area. I would love to go to Thailand and train but life gets in the way. I am saving to be able to go and hope to be able to do so by 2013.

Anyways, if my goal is to train and fight traditional Muay thai would it be better to train MMA style Muay thai until I am able to train traditional, or would it better to focus on fitness and conditioning until I have the opportunity to train traditional
Muay thai?
 

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I realize that it isn't bad, and didn't mean to give that impression. It is just not what I'm looking for.

As far as going and getting it, I don't know of any gyms that teach traditional Muay thai in my area. I would love to go to Thailand and train but life gets in the way. I am saving to be able to go and hope to be able to do so by 2013.

Anyways, if my goal is to train and fight traditional Muay thai would it be better to train MMA style Muay thai until I am able to train traditional, or would it better to focus on fitness and conditioning until I have the opportunity to train traditional
Muay thai?

Think of it this way: The Techniques will be MT based. In order for them to be MT based, the Teacher needs to know MT. You could ask him if he could show you the "Clean" MT Variants for your own Preference. The Stance is something else you could learn - And if the MT Stances causes you to get MMA'd into Submission, it was your choice to use it, so i dont see why he wouldnt show it.
So by all means - Get the Conditioning, Cardio, and Retrospect. And youll find it easier to learn Base MT if you ever get a chance.
 

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In MMA we tend to say 'stand up' for all striking obviously standing and 'groundwork' for all the grappling/judo/BJJ stuff, rarely if ever is it MT as such, it will be a mixture of MT, boxing, TKD and karate plus any other styles strikes that work for the person training. The mixture will depend on what suits the person training as far as body size etc goes.
We send out fighters out to Thailand to train at Fairtex and they don't have any problem training MT out there, MMA people are nothing if not adaptable!
 
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