Street guys. Please give direct technical answers.

[Rich Parsons]

It is a very self defence thing. So we start with training against multiple opponents or weapons. And that makes you more street right?

But the reality is you are kind of screwed.,the extra training doesn't really help. Because you are against multiple opponents and weapons.

I have found that accidents occur while training with Multiple opponents as soon as grappling occurs.
The target gets tied up and if they attack high and low and then they are thrown / or fall they land on someone who usually isn't expecting to be a pillow.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

I have found that accidents occur while training with Multiple opponents as soon as grappling occurs.
The target gets tied up and if they attack high and low and then they are thrown / or fall they land on someone who usually isn't expecting to be a pillow.

The mobility to take your opponent down and then take off is useful strategy. To avoid your opponent to drag you down is the key. That means you have to know exactly where your opponent's arms are. Using your opponent's leading arm to jam his back arm is a good strategy. This also means that the wrestler also need to know the striking art.

 

[drop bear]

I have found that accidents occur while training with Multiple opponents as soon as grappling occurs.
The target gets tied up and if they attack high and low and then they are thrown / or fall they land on someone who usually isn't expecting to be a pillow.

There is a trick to it.

 

[HighKick]

I have found that accidents occur while training with Multiple opponents as soon as grappling occurs.
The target gets tied up and if they attack high and low and then they are thrown / or fall they land on someone who usually isn't expecting to be a pillow.

The only time we go 2-on-1 is for 'fun' with the kids. The odds of a 2-person assault are very low and extremely low when you factor out the ones where the person attacked either knew the attackers or was involve in the incident in some way. And training to a good level of sufficiency on one attacker will give a person a chance against two by using the same skillset.
A two person attack is definitely in the avoidance and SA category. Avoid at all costs if possible.

As far as carrying a weapon, it is on the person to train and to stay polished on the use of said weapon. I live in an open carry state and depending on what part of the nearest big city I go to I open carry. It is a deterrent. I carry All the time.
As a MA's school, we have a joint program with our city PD to train and qualify students (adults only of course) in firearms. And I take a 'awareness' approach on who is invited to take the program. If a person has neve been around firearms and has zero interest in having one, no harm, no foul. But if someone starts the program they are required to take the Bi-annually courses and invited to our monthly group firing range sessions. For obvious reasons, this is done on an individual basis to avoid liability on the school.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

The only time we go 2-on-1 is for 'fun' with the kids. The odds of a 2-person assault are very low and extremely low when you factor out the ones where the person attacked either knew the attackers or was involve in the incident in some way. And training to a good level of sufficiency on one attacker will give a person a chance against two by using the same skillset.
A two person attack is definitely in the avoidance and SA category. Avoid at all costs if possible.

As far as carrying a weapon, it is on the person to train and to stay polished on the use of said weapon. I live in an open carry state and depending on what part of the nearest big city I go to I open carry. It is a deterrent. I carry All the time.
As a MA's school, we have a joint program with our city PD to train and qualify students (adults only of course) in firearms. And I take a 'awareness' approach on who is invited to take the program. If a person has neve been around firearms and has zero interest in having one, no harm, no foul. But if someone starts the program they are required to take the Bi-annually courses and invited to our monthly group firing range sessions. For obvious reasons, this is done on an individual basis to avoid liability on the school.

I carry concealed, no open carry in CA except when fishing or hunting. My issue with open carry is that someone can potentially take your gun from your holster and rob you with it or just run off with your pistol. As far as multiple people assaulting one at the same time, it isn’t rare at all, in fact, it’s the most common version where I grew up. Where I live now, the chances of any kind of assault are exceedingly low.

 

[Rich Parsons]

There is a trick to it.

I had two one my right arm one around the middle and two on each leg. The guys on the legs chatted quickly and pushed in the same direction and down I went.
I could not stop the fall. I was a falling mass of 260+ lbs (120+ kg) and trying to get free to stop people being crushed. Well one arm ended up underneath a shoulder and my chest landed on top of his shoulder as well. Pop. The shoulder was out.

Other incidents have occurred.

And yes the frame / plank landing to protect those underneath you I have been doing since I was in kindergarten and playing Tackle the Ball Carrier.
Once tackled and the dog pile was off of you , then you would throw the ball and someone would try to catch it and see how far they could run. It was a badge of honor to carry it further than others.

Yet when I would tackle I would protect those underneath me.

 

[HighKick]

I carry concealed, no open carry in CA except when fishing or hunting. My issue with open carry is that someone can potentially take your gun from your holster and rob you with it or just run off with your pistol. As far as multiple people assaulting one at the same time, it isn’t rare at all, in fact, it’s the most common version where I grew up. Where I live now, the chances of any kind of assault are exceedingly low.

If you are informed enough to be carrying in the first place, it is Very difficult for someone to 'grab' you gun out of the holster. A Lot of other bad things would have to happen first. And those would be on you as well.
And what are the odds? I often wear glasses. The odds are greater that the attacker rips off my glasses and stabs me in the eye than takes my sidearm.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

If you are informed enough to be carrying in the first place, it is Very difficult for someone to 'grab' you gun out of the holster. A Lot of other bad things would have to happen first. And those would be on you as well.
And what are the odds? I often wear glasses. The odds are greater that the attacker rips off my glasses and stabs me in the eye than takes my sidearm.

Someone in line behind you in a store when you are paying at the counter or pumping gas etc. There are actually quite a few videos of it happening. I get that you aren’t living in an area where this stuff happens, but it does happen.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

If you are informed enough to be carrying in the first place, it is Very difficult for someone to 'grab' you gun out of the holster. A Lot of other bad things would have to happen first. And those would be on you as well.
And what are the odds? I often wear glasses. The odds are greater that the attacker rips off my glasses and stabs me in the eye than takes my sidearm.

It happens to cops during struggles as well, it’s well documented. This is why some guys like retention holsters that have a draw release. If you hip carry, a guy behind you has the perfect angle to draw your weapon. If I’m appendix or shoulder carrying concealed there is less chance of printing and thus revealing my firearm. I concede that open hip carry is much faster on the draw. Again, this is unlikely, particularly in rural areas, but it does happen.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Things are a bit different this side of the pond- it's illegal to carry a gun or even a knife. Which is a pain when you work a physical job. Legally, you're allowed to carry a blade if you need it for your job, but with my wierd neurology I often forget to take my knives out of my bag after I get home. I once visited my brother in London during the buildup to the olympic games, walked through a high security area, got to my bro's place and found out I had omitted to take my whittling knife out of my bag. Oops!

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Things are a bit different this side of the pond- it's illegal to carry a gun or even a knife. Which is a pain when you work a physical job. Legally, you're allowed to carry a blade if you need it for your job, but with my wierd neurology I often forget to take my knives out of my bag after I get home. I once visited my brother in London during the buildup to the olympic games, walked through a high security area, got to my bro's place and found out I had omitted to take my whittling knife out of my bag. Oops!

Illegal to even own a pistol or revolver there right?

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Illegal to even own a pistol or revolver there right?

Unless you have the license for it yes, I'm not 100% sure but if you get caught with one...

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Unless you have the license for it yes, I'm not 100% sure but if you get caught with one...

@Gyakuto got into some issue for just a Japanese sword that he even got a permit for.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Unless you have the license for it yes, I'm not 100% sure but if you get caught with one...

Knife and gun laws here vary drastically from state to state.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Knife and gun laws here vary drastically from state to state.

Ah fair enough

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Ah fair enough

Not exactly fair in my opinion

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Not exactly fair in my opinion

Difficult to respond to that without touching on politics, so I won't.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Difficult to respond to that without touching on politics, so I won't.

Now, that’s fair!

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Then again, a fair is a thing with rides and games.

 

[drop bear]

If you are informed enough to be carrying in the first place, it is Very difficult for someone to 'grab' you gun out of the holster. A Lot of other bad things would have to happen first. And those would be on you as well.
And what are the odds? I often wear glasses. The odds are greater that the attacker rips off my glasses and stabs me in the eye than takes my sidearm.

Exept the results are worse as you would be responsible for that stolen gun.

And the threat is higher because someone wants that gun more than your glasses.