Obama's Egypt Muddle

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Obama's Egypt Muddle
The Daily Beast EXCERPT:
by Niall Ferguson
February 13, 2011 | 10:40pm
Newsweek's new columnist makes his debut in this week's issue with a cover story on Obama's Egypt debacle and the strategic vacuum it exposes in the White House.
"The statesman can only wait and listen until he hears the footsteps of God resounding through events; then he must jump up and grasp the hem of His coat, that is all." Thus Otto von Bismarck, the great Prussian statesman who united Germany and thereby reshaped Europe's balance of power nearly a century and a half ago.
Last week, for the second time in his presidency, Barack Obama heard those footsteps, jumped up to grasp a historic opportunity… and missed it completely.
In Bismarck's case, it was not so much God's coattails he caught as the revolutionary wave of mid-19th-century German nationalism. And he did more than catch it; he managed to surf it in a direction of his own choosing. The wave Obama just missed—again—is the revolutionary wave of Middle Eastern democracy. It has surged through the region twice since he was elected: once in Iran in the summer of 2009, the second time right across North Africa, from Tunisia all the way down the Red Sea to Yemen. But the swell has been biggest in Egypt, the Middle East's most populous country.
In each case, the president faced stark alternatives. He could try to catch the wave, Bismarck style, by lending his support to the youthful revolutionaries and trying to ride it in a direction advantageous to American interests. Or he could do nothing and let the forces of reaction prevail. In the case of Iran, he did nothing, and the thugs of the Islamic Republic ruthlessly crushed the demonstrations. This time around, in Egypt, it was worse. He did both—some days exhorting Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak to leave, other days drawing back and recommending an "orderly transition."
The result has been a foreign-policy debacle. The president has alienated everybody: not only Mubarak's cronies in the military, but also the youthful crowds in the streets of Cairo. Whoever ultimately wins, Obama loses. And the alienation doesn't end there. America's two closest friends in the region—Israel and Saudi Arabia—are both disgusted. The Saudis, who dread all manifestations of revolution, are appalled at Washington's failure to resolutely prop up Mubarak. The Israelis, meanwhile, are dismayed by the administration's apparent cluelessness.
 

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Considering the West has a pisspoor track record supporting the wrong side, does he really have to meddle at all?
 

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Conveniently forgotten in this article is that if Obama had lent full throated support to the revolution, it would have angered allies like Israel and Saudi Arabia. Then the author would castigate Obama for not considering the consequences of opposing the Mubarak regime and angering our allies.
 
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Conveniently forgotten in this article is that if Obama had lent full throated support to the revolution, it would have angered allies like Israel and Saudi Arabia. Then the author would castigate Obama for not considering the consequences of opposing the Mubarak regime and angering our allies.
Had he lent full-throated support, at least he would have taken a stand. All he did was "Vote Present"...
There has been no rhyme or reason to the Obama administration's foreign policy.
 

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Had he lent full-throated support, at least he would have taken a stand. All he did was "Vote Present"...
There has been no rhyme or reason to the Obama administration's foreign policy.

It is not his stand to take.

It would have been the 'responsibility' to nudge the past regime into reforms of the past presidents, and W had a longer time in office to do that.

If you are presented with a no win situation you should have the wisdom to keep your mouth shut. generally speaking, not personally.
 

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Had he lent full-throated support, at least he would have taken a stand. All he did was "Vote Present"...

Which in this case, was the wisest thing to do. He was able to work behind the scenes to urge Mubarak to step down, while preserving relationships and preserving American influence all across the Middle East. There was no benefit to taking a public stand in either direction.

If Bush had done the same thing, you would be extolling his genius.

One of the marks of a thinker with integrity is the ability to recognize reason, strategy, or even good actions in people with whom you otherwise disagree. To that effect, Bush 43 did a very good thing by promoting this election monitoring program in Egypt, and I commend him for it. Praise the good, criticize the bad, in anyone and everyone. No one is all of one or the other.
 

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Had he lent full-throated support, at least he would have taken a stand. All he did was "Vote Present"...
There has been no rhyme or reason to the Obama administration's foreign policy.
Some one just explained the rhyme and a reason, and yet you still claim there is none. I guess that is why he is the president and you are ranting on MartialTalk.
Sean
 

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Im the biggest anti-Obama guys I know but I'm glad he kept quiet. I wish he and hillary would keep quite about the Iran stuff also. I'm tired of getting involved in the worlds problems. Which is one of the reason Im starting to look hard at Ron Paul for 2012. It would be so much cheaper for us to just stay out of it. That's what the world seems to want anyway they just need to know once were out were out don't cry to us for help when things go bad. Id like to keep out troops and our money here at home.
 

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Obama did exactly what he should have done given his choices and the repurcussions of anything proactive he could have done. This is a case of where world events have given his naysayers an opening to ***** and moan no matter what he would have done. Had he supported the demonstrators more forcefully, some people would have had real issues with that. Had he supported Mobarak more forcefully, those same people would have had issues. He walked the tightrope doing exactly what he should have done for the US's interest, yet those same people are griping that he didn't do anything. There are no pleasing some people if they have already decided they don't like anything a person will do. They are jaded beyond making informed rational decisions on a person's actions.
 

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The proper path in these situations is to just shut up, hope for the best, and when he dust settle be ready to offer help.
 

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