New WT Sparring Rules

[TrueJim]

So in essence it's really a training or procedural problem.

Largely true, yes.

If it's an identical sensor used for each location but simply calibrated for that location and desired level of impact - then you shouldn't get them in the wrong place...

I'm not positive about this, but I think age of the hogu and sensors plays a role too. A new hogu is stiffer, worn batteries are weaker, etc. In principle you are correct, but in practice you'll see hogus that detect a hit too easily, or detect hard hits not at all. (This is especially true of Daedo, less true of KP&P.)

 

[skribs]

Thing is, they did pre-test the hogus and STILL made mistakes about half the time.

 

[Rough Rider]

In this photo, the third buttons are on the top-edge of the Judge Box. You work the facing buttons with your thumbs, and the top-edge buttons with your index fingers.

That device looks a lot better than what we use. I can't seem to find a picture of it, so I guess it's not very common. The system actually uses two controllers; one in each hand. Each one is shaped like a pistol grip. There is a button on top that you press down on with your thumb. That is the 2-point button. There is another button on the front that you squeeze with your index finger. That is the 1-point button. As I said before, this setup worked well under the old rules- top button for head, bottom button for body. Now we have to quickly press top then bottom for 3 points, top twice for 4 points. The 3 point is tricky, because if one judge does top-bottom, another does bottom-top, and the third judge misses the point, there is no score. I really don't know what we're going to do for a 5-point shot.

 

[TrueJim]

That device looks a lot better than what we use. I can't seem to find a picture of it, so I guess it's not very common. The system actually uses two controllers; one in each hand. Each one is shaped like a pistol grip. .

I can't find a photo of that either. I've used it before. I actually like it. I think that system is called Ringmaster? It's only used in smaller tournaments generally, because it's not a WT-approved system, as I recall. It's older too. I'm not sure if it's still being sold.

I like the two-pistol-grips because I can drop my hands low on either side of my body, in a comfortable position. I tend to lean left and right a lot in my chair when I judge, and I find a two-handed controller to be less comfortable when I lean.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I can't find a photo of that either. I've used it before. I actually like it. I think that system is called Ringmaster? It's only used in smaller tournaments generally, because it's not a WT-approved system, as I recall. It's older too. I'm not sure if it's still being sold.

I like the two-pistol-grips because I can drop my hands low on either side of my body, in a comfortable position. I tend to lean left and right a lot in my chair when I judge, and I find a two-handed controller to be less comfortable when I lean.

It appears to not be available: Ring Master electronic scoring system

 

[Gerry Seymour]

That device looks a lot better than what we use. I can't seem to find a picture of it, so I guess it's not very common. The system actually uses two controllers; one in each hand. Each one is shaped like a pistol grip. There is a button on top that you press down on with your thumb. That is the 2-point button. There is another button on the front that you squeeze with your index finger. That is the 1-point button. As I said before, this setup worked well under the old rules- top button for head, bottom button for body. Now we have to quickly press top then bottom for 3 points, top twice for 4 points. The 3 point is tricky, because if one judge does top-bottom, another does bottom-top, and the third judge misses the point, there is no score. I really don't know what we're going to do for a 5-point shot.

This one?

 

[Rough Rider]

This one?

Yep

 

[TrueJim]

The ones I've used have two buttons in the thumb area, and one at the trigger finger. But otherwise they look like that.