Master Wong

Spartan

Green Belt
Joined
Dec 20, 2006
Messages
121
Reaction score
0
Do any of you all know anything about a wing chun/jkd guy called Master Wong? He's has a video series - I've seen some clips and the guy looks pretty impressive.

Peace,
Spartan
 

TaiChiTJ

Brown Belt
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
490
Reaction score
47
I never heard of him until I was at my local library browsing the martial arts section. There were two of his dvds among the books! I like to watch him move, he's very energetic and efficient. As to a more considered analysis of his stuff, the heavy duty wing chun folks on the board are going to have to answer. I am glad to have bumped into his work.

:ultracool
 

KamonGuy2

Master of Arts
Joined
Nov 28, 2005
Messages
1,884
Reaction score
18
Location
London, United Kingdom
I wasn't very impressed with his siu nim tao DVD, but like I say - never judge people on video clips or websites. The best way is always to go visit people in person
 

bigbadade

White Belt
Joined
Sep 18, 2007
Messages
10
Reaction score
0
Location
West Midlands
Although Master Wong does not reveal his Teacher his style (from the foms) look very much like the Foshan style and not the Yip Man Hong King Style.

Although his videos look impressive, I am of the opinion that that is all they do, look impressive. These look to me like they are highly choreographed to look good and there is not a lot of technical explanation behind the moves.

I am not sure about Master Wong as not a lot is known about him, but he does look as though he is energetic and can execute his technique.
 

tenth1

Yellow Belt
Joined
May 25, 2007
Messages
44
Reaction score
0
is that the same wong who wrote the book "deceptive hands of wing chun" ??
 

DungHo

Yellow Belt
Joined
Sep 6, 2007
Messages
34
Reaction score
3
Location
Buffalo, New York 14215
i don't think it yip man style. to hard and rely on muscle. Yip man is 120 lbs. if he rely on his muscle, must likely he will be death in a fight
 

Gurokevin

Yellow Belt
Joined
Sep 15, 2006
Messages
23
Reaction score
0
I have a few of his videos and have talked to him a few times. I personally don't think his Wing Chun is very good. If you watch the countless BS sequences that they make up, almost none of it sticks to WC theory and logic. He talks about that stuff while he is talking in the vids, but when he goes to show something, it never comes out. His style is more along the lines of a pretty crappy JKD. I don't think he really and fully understands what he is trying to teach.

Now I am not trying to put "the man" down, for I do not know him that well. I am sure he is a great guy. And he definitely believes in what he is selling. Just saying about his style.
 

retsaM

White Belt
Joined
Feb 5, 2008
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
I have only seen his clips on utube, some of which seemed ok. I tried 2 do some background on him, only 2 find he does not choose 2 disclose his lineage. This is rather strange as most masters r proud of their source of learning. 2 be honest, it put me off taking a closer look at his teachings. Still, he could b worth investigating further.
 

Domino

Black Belt
Joined
Apr 14, 2009
Messages
519
Reaction score
1
Location
Preston
is that the same wong who wrote the book "deceptive hands of wing chun" ??

I haven't read the book but it is a different guy. He just does his own thing, chen/yang style tai chi, privacy is exactly that.

 
Last edited by a moderator:

Marnetmar

Black Belt
Joined
Oct 9, 2013
Messages
674
Reaction score
163
Although Master Wong does not reveal his Teacher his style (from the foms) look very much like the Foshan style and not the Yip Man Hong King Style.

I'm thinking he's either Pan Nam mixed with Yip Man or one of the Vietnamese styles that evolved from YKS's style. (I'm getting tired of spelling out names :p)

That said, I don't think his stuff is very good. It looks pretty but that's about it.
 

wingchun100

Senior Master
Joined
Sep 2, 2013
Messages
3,300
Reaction score
522
Location
Troy NY
I have only seen his clips on utube, some of which seemed ok. I tried 2 do some background on him, only 2 find he does not choose 2 disclose his lineage. This is rather strange as most masters r proud of their source of learning. 2 be honest, it put me off taking a closer look at his teachings. Still, he could b worth investigating further.

What's ironic is how I expressed this same sentiment...wondering why he would not reveal his lineage...and I got jumped on for it! LOL

In any event, I was asking my Sifu about this guy. I said, "Is he even really wing chun?" He said, "He is...he just makes it his own."

That might not mean much to those of you who don't know my Sifu, but to me it was a pretty profound statement.
 

KPM

Senior Master
Joined
Jul 6, 2014
Messages
3,642
Reaction score
990
I haven't read the book but it is a different guy. He just does his own thing, chen/yang style tai chi, privacy is exactly that.


Douglas Wong wrote that book. This Wong was probably in high school when it was written. :) My guess is that this Wong has "made it his own" by combining and altering various things. If he is doing things significantly different than his teacher, then:
1. His teacher may have "disclaimed" him because he is no longer representative of the lineage's teaching
2. He may not want to be associated with his prior lineage because people would pre-judge what he does

But yeah, I'd be a little nervous about someone that won't reveal their lineage. In the end what really counts though is what you do with what you've got!
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Vajramusti

Master Black Belt
Joined
Mar 14, 2010
Messages
1,283
Reaction score
312
is that the same wong who wrote the book "deceptive hands of wing chun" ??
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
No that was Douglas Wong- Curtis Wong's brother who really does not do wing chun.

The Wong on the DVD does a muscled imitation of wing chun imo.
 

Danny T

Senior Master
Joined
Sep 5, 2002
Messages
4,258
Reaction score
2,292
Location
New Iberia, Louisiana USA
He is comical, his presentation of the material I have seen is comical, and he is quite energetic.
Having never felt him I can only opine from what I've seen, his WC appears to be quite hard compared to how we teach it. Doesn't mean he can't make it work or that it isn't effective. It's just not what we do as WC.
 

Argus

2nd Black Belt
Joined
Jul 16, 2012
Messages
722
Reaction score
257
Location
In my head!
Oh, I love Master Wong! He's probably my favorite first generation student of Yip Man!
54c747b58525f4bf39c533cf1d2bba48.jpg



Oh, wait, you mean this guy:
master-wong-2.jpg



Sorry, but I feel we should add an "r" in his name for disambiguation.

I'm actually quite familiar with his material. And, you'll find he's quite popular, and that people will defend him even here. But I believe in calling it as I see it: you won't learn any semblence of Wing Chun from his videos. Nor even if you trained with him in person.
 

Vajramusti

Master Black Belt
Joined
Mar 14, 2010
Messages
1,283
Reaction score
312
Oh, I love Master Wong! He's probably my favorite first generation student of Yip Man!
54c747b58525f4bf39c533cf1d2bba48.jpg



Oh, wait, you mean this guy:
master-wong-2.jpg



Sorry, but I feel we should add an "r" in his name for disambiguation.

I'm actually quite familiar with his material. And, you'll find he's quite popular, and that people will defend him even here. But I believe in calling it as I see it: you won't learn any semblence of Wing Chun from his videos. Nor even if you trained with him in person.
-----------------------------------------------------------
WSL was the good Wong- the other fella just promotes himself.
 
Top