Legal Seminar

[jkn75]

This post brought up an interesting idea.

Would school owners/students be interested in a workshop/seminar that covered the following
- criminal justice system
the stages of a criminal and civil trial
-self-defense
the definition
duty to flee, imperfect self defense
-weapons
what are legal/illegal?
-assault/battery/murder
definitions, defenses

Let me know if this sounds interesting. What would you want to see in this program? How detailed would you want it, cases and statutes or an overview? How long would you want to sit there? How much would you pay? What else would you want to know?

 

[still learning]

Hello, Yes! We would like to learn legal side of using martials arts. Every state has different laws, but knowing the general parts will help everyone. Not to sure what to pay to attend? There is a book on this...not sure of the name?...Aloha

 

[jkn75]

Hello, Yes! We would like to learn legal side of using martials arts. Every state has different laws, but knowing the general parts will help everyone. Not to sure what to pay to attend? There is a book on this...not sure of the name?...Aloha

Yes there is a book. However, law is ever changing and this book is 6 years old. The seminar would be updated information and there would be time for questions and answers, so if something was unclear it could be discussed.

There are other materials out there, articles in TKD Times, BB, and on the web. But having a live person to talk to, answer questions, and provide some materials is more personal and may provide a better environment to learn.

 

[Zepp]

I'd be interested in attending if the seminar covered California law. (And was held somewhere nearby me. )

 

[Drac]

This post brought up an interesting idea.

Would school owners/students be interested in a workshop/seminar that covered the following
- criminal justice system
the stages of a criminal and civil trial
-self-defense
the definition
duty to flee, imperfect self defense
-weapons
what are legal/illegal?
-assault/battery/murder
definitions, defenses

Let me know if this sounds interesting. What would you want to see in this program? How detailed would you want it, cases and statutes or an overview? How long would you want to sit there? How much would you pay? What else would you want to know?

Yes, it's sounds interesting..Now IF we can get them to attend...

 

[terryl965]

Absolutely when how and how much.

 

[chinto01]

I would be interested if it covered Connecticut laws also

 

[tshadowchaser]

I think many of us would be interested in such a seminar. Like those who have answered befor have said it would have to apply to the state it was given in as well as general feelings of the courts. Federal laws should also be covered in such a seminar.

 

[sifu Adams]

I would be interested for myself and my black belts. If done right I would like to see about putting into the federation I am involved in. I would like to know at what point do I have to stop, what to say that would keep me out of trouble. and the "what if's" example what if a guy attacks me with a knife, gun, two guys, four guys, in a bar, alley, at my gym, with my family, what if my famliy was attacked and I snaped and killed some one? I know what I think I would do in some of the cases but what dose the law say.

 

[Cruentus]

The legal aspects are grossly overlooked in martial arts training.

Yet, it is a key component to self-defense. I always try to include legal aspects of self-defense in my civilian seminars, particularly my knife seminars.

One suggestion, if your an attorney who is well versed in criminal law, would be to link up with instructors who teach seminars already. Especially knife, improvised weapon, or firearm seminars. You could do the lecture on legal matters as it relates to the seminar for an hour, and the instructor can teach for the rest of the time.

You could just bill for your time, as you would in your practice, or you could request a percentage of the profits. If your doing a %, then I say ask for the % as related to time spent: example - if you lectured for an hour, and the seminar was 5 hours total, then you should get 20% of the money allocated to instruction. I would request a minimum amount, then take a % after the minimum is met. It all depends on who you are working with, and the value to you.

One thing though: Don't waste your time trying to tote yourself up as a legal specialist if you don't at least have your JD. Maybe LEO might get away with it, if they have consulted an attorney themselves. But you don't want to tote yourself up as an expert in something that your not an expert in. In my seminars when I cover legal aspects myself, I repeat many times that I am not an attorney, and that they should verify what I tell them with one that they trust as part of their training.

I think that linking up with someone in a joint venture may be more useful and successful then a seperate seminar on the subject. I know that I would gladly bring in an attorney for some of my events as a special guest lecturer.

Paul

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[Cruentus]

jkn75,

For the sake of not being presumptuous, are you an attorney yourself?

Paul

 

[jkn75]

Yes, I am an attorney, that's why I thought of pursuing this. The legal process seems to be something that martial artists don't know enough about. After talking to other martial artists, it seems they have a mish mash of information from other martial artists, LEO's, and mass media. LEO's are the best source of the three but sometimes their information may be out of date. Even something as simple as the trial process has made martial artists open their eyes.

This idea originally started with security guards. This is another industry of people who do not have the information they need. Again talking with security guards (professional, uniformed, down to the bouncer at a club), it seems they don't always know what they need to know.

Thank you for your input on fees. I had thought of doing this on my own but teaming with others who give seminars is a great idea. I would custom tailor the information to what the school owner or students wanted to learn about in the areas stated in my first post.

Thanks for everyone's input.

 

[Cruentus]

Cool.

I think tailoring solutions for the audience is a good thing to do. I'd look into bringing you in if you were closer to Michigan.

Anyhow, best wishes, and let us know how it goes.

Paul