- May 12, 2002
- Reaction score
- Southern California
Krav Maga does not have anything in it that we do not have in Kenpo. So what is the difference? Presentation Teej
The key is that the Krav Maga teaching method of spontaneous reaction drills has left a lot of Kenpo schools.
Speaking as a level one KM student and a greenbelt American Kenpo student, I will basically second Teej's post above.
My Kenpo sensei told us that in a real life self defense situation, most people will not consciously perform a complete technique from start to finish, they will just react and ad lib with a mixup of what they learned from technique training. Likewise, Krav Maga has taught me several things in only 3 months time that suspiciously resemble American Kenpo, but with their own twists, and the instructors are quick to point out that you should do whatever works and that there is no "right" or "wrong" way to finish off -- as long as your first few moves are done effectively.
So far, what I'm getting in comparing the two systems is that AK seeks to get the attacker down on the ground and well incapacitated before the martial artist backs off and then runs or whatever. KM doesn't necessarily aim to get the attacker on the ground or completely incapacitated, just to get the attacker foiled and to back off long enough to buy time so the martial artist can flee. Then again I am only a Level One, maybe at the higher levels it is different.
In any case, formality aside, I see them both as more alike than different in the end.
Not to get off the subject and not to start any arguments, I would like to post a very reliable opinion concerning Krav Maga taught in the US.
I know a man that travels atleast twice if not more per year to Israel. Besides being a Rabbi, he is a Kali instructor. He told me that the Krav Maga taught in the US is not the same Krav Maga taught and practiced in Israel. He stated that the US versions being taught are commercialized versions of what is being taught to Israels'.
Don't ask me to elaborate. You'll have to talk to someone who has seen both for an answer. This is just a statement to get you thinking.
One of my ex-wifes best friends is Israeli, living here in the US. She did her stint in the service over there. Her BROTHER is special forces in Israel, and comes over often to visit and see the baby. HHe and I have had some great backyard sessions going over kenpo vs. krav, and I can asuure you that the version being trained in "over there" is substantially different than what's available in the U.S. phone book.
Interestingly, we've each picked up some great stuff from the other; started out somewhat antagonistic, and ended with us becoming the best of friends, and exchanging e-mails, notes, and ideas on a regular basis.
Scary guy, but you should see him with his nieces and nephews...melts like a little softy.
I too have come in contact with people from there in "the business," and they all say the same thing. Night and day. Real Krav has everything in it, including firearms instruction, and covert hand-to-hand combat techniques.
It is my understanding that commercially available Krav depends heavily upon the background of whomever they get to teach. So, some Krav looks like Kenpo, some like JKD, and still others look like TKD. I went to one school and they were teaching students to kick guns and knives out of an attackers hands.
I mean after all, you don't think a whole bunch of Israeli Special Forces guys just left Isreal and came over to the U.S. to bring their expertise to teach Krav Maga all at once do you? One "agent" told me that if you counted all of the guys teaching Krav Maga in the U.S., the number would probably exceed the whole of Israeli Special Forces. So, where did all of these "experts" come from?