JRE - Striking and BJJ

TMA17 said:
Well I think we'd all agree you need to be able to strike and grapple. We've all seen the videos of street fights where two guys are throwing wild punches and eventually someone gets clipped. The other scenario is the grappler closes the distance and gains control. Once takedown is achieved, the grappler can control what he wants to do.
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You don't necessarily need to grapple if you can strike.

Because, the other other scenario is the person who actually knows how to strike properly controls the distance and strikes properly.

You don't have to grab someone and take them to the ground to have control of the situation.
 
pdg said:
You don't necessarily need to grapple if you can strike.

Because, the other other scenario is the person who actually knows how to strike properly controls the distance and strikes properly.

You don't have to grab someone and take them to the ground to have control of the situation.
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Because, not many strikers stand about swinging wildly in the hope one will eventually clip...
 
pdg said:
You don't necessarily need to grapple if you can strike.

Because, the other other scenario is the person who actually knows how to strike properly controls the distance and strikes properly.

You don't have to grab someone and take them to the ground to have control of the situation.
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What do you think of this?

 
The counter to grappling is grappling.
The counter to strikiing is striking or grappling.
 
Headhunter said:
Just because 1 guy Taps doesn't mean everyone will....for example kimuras don't work on me. I'm not bragging they just simply don't. Even I'm drills when I'm not fighting back they don't work on me I don't feel them at all I've had my arm all the way up to my back and it's never worked. I've seen the same with people with arm bars and chokes. Sometimes it just doesn't work
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Indeed, thats why you roll with multiple partners with multiple strengths and weaknesses, so when you encounter someone similar you'll know how to respond.
 
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pdg said:
You don't necessarily need to grapple if you can strike.

Because, the other other scenario is the person who actually knows how to strike properly controls the distance and strikes properly.

You don't have to grab someone and take them to the ground to have control of the situation.
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Best way to control any situation. Run like hell situation controlled. It's hard to do that when grappling
 
pdg said:
You don't necessarily need to grapple if you can strike.

Because, the other other scenario is the person who actually knows how to strike properly controls the distance and strikes properly.

You don't have to grab someone and take them to the ground to have control of the situation.
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Frankly I have yet to see any striker control the distance to the point they can keep a trained grappler at bay for an extended amount of time. The only way that happens is if the striker has extensively trained in take down defenses i.e. like Chuck Liddell (who was actually a wrestler who just liked to punch people).
 
Hanzou said:
Frankly I have yet to see any striker control the distance to the point they can keep a trained grappler at bay for an extended amount of time. The only way that happens is if the striker has extensively trained in take down defenses i.e. like Chuck Liddell (who was actually a wrestler who just liked to punch people).
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No that happens if the striker understands proper distance
 
Hanzou said:
Frankly I have yet to see any striker control the distance to the point they can keep a trained grappler at bay for an extended amount of time. The only way that happens is if the striker has extensively trained in take down defenses i.e. like Chuck Liddell (who was actually a wrestler who just liked to punch people).
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You do know this is about self defence not the ring? Extended amount of time? Real fights last about 30 seconds to a minute not 15 minutes with 1 minute break in between
 
Headhunter said:
You do know this is about self defence not the ring? Extended amount of time? Real fights last about 30 seconds to a minute not 15 minutes with 1 minute break in between
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I was actually talking about self defense. The idea that a striker can just dance around a trained grappler and take pop shots until the latter gets knocked out is pure fantasy. Taped street fights bear that out, where the distance is closed and grappling range is reached almost every time (everything else is one-shot KOs).
 
Headhunter said:
I'd never want to be on the ground top or bottom. If I ever ended up on top I'd stand up then either run or neutralise him from my feet if he tries to get up
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!00% agree there my friend ....and you make a good point ....people can neutralize a person without going to ground themselves
 
This is the closest thing I've seen in mma that resembles a street fight. This is how pretty much all street fights go notice the one desperate takedown the guy tried was easily blocked. That's the thing it's hard to hit that perfect takedown when getting smashed in the face multiple times.

 
now disabled said:
No that happens if the striker understands proper distance
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You can learn all the proper distance you want, if you don't know how to stop a standard takedown from a wrestler, you're going on your back.

And no, punching and kicking isn't going to get you out of that situation.
 
Hanzou said:
You can learn all the proper distance you want, if you don't know how to stop a standard takedown from a wrestler, you're going on your back.

And no, punching and kicking isn't going to get you out of that situation.
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how is that?
 
Hanzou said:
You can learn all the proper distance you want, if you don't know how to stop a standard takedown from a wrestler, you're going on your back.

And no, punching and kicking isn't going to get you out of that situation.
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Sure about that?
 
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