Getting back after broken ankle

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I suppose seven years and more of training to be a doctor is just a waste of time then. :eek:
It's nice to know that the body heals itself, I shall tell my friends that who have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome that. It start with soft tissue damage and can end up killing you, it's extremely painful also but not to worry the body heals itself........

EhlersDanlos syndrome - Wikipedia
your just building a strawman argument, I've noticed you have a habit of doing that, we are talking specifically about sports injuries and I have said that there are conditions and injuries' that require experts. your friends ailment is whatt is called a diseases'. Ii have said nothing about diseases, how do you think that has any bearing on a pulled mus
Oh my, as George would say. For one thing my friends ( both were martial artists, one was an MMA fighter) don't have a disease, it's a condition hence it's called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome not disease. It's quite pertinent to the conversation because of what it affects and it doesn't heal itself. A surprisingly lot of people suffer various degrees of this condition which affects ligaments, muscles and joints, if you care to look back on threads here you will see people asking about their hypermobility issues in martial arts and the injuries that can ensue.
well yes a,syndrome is a disease, its one in,which the,causes is not fully understood, so its diagnosed off its symptoms rather than there being a definitive test for it.

so in,short you are a recommending that anyone with a sport injury should rush to the,Drs incase they have,a rare condition. No wonder the NHS is overworked .
 

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your just building a strawman argument, I've noticed you have a habit of doing that, we are talking specifically about sports injuries and I have said that there are conditions and injuries' that require experts. your friends ailment is whatt is called a diseases'. Ii have said nothing about diseases, how do you think that has any bearing on a pulled mus

well yes a,syndrome is a disease, its one in,which the,causes is not fully understood, so its diagnosed off its symptoms rather than there being a definitive test for it.

so in,short you are a recommending that anyone with a sport injury should rush to the,Drs incase they have,a rare condition. No wonder the NHS is overworked .

What are you on about?

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Just a point of order...

Just because something is called a syndrome doesn't mean it's not a disease. Nor does it mean it's cause is unknown.

AIDS - Acquired Immuno Deficiency SYNDROME. It's a disease. It's cause is known (Human Immunodeficiency Virus, aka HIV).

Now back to our regularly scheduled ranting...
 

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Just a point of order...

Just because something is called a syndrome doesn't mean it's not a disease. Nor does it mean it's cause is unknown.

AIDS - Acquired Immuno Deficiency SYNDROME. It's a disease. It's cause is known (Human Immunodeficiency Virus, aka HIV).

Now back to our regularly scheduled ranting...

The one syndrome I pointed out, because of it's relevance to the thread, is not classed as a disease according to my friend's specialist...I asked her before posting.
 

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Bones should heal stronger than before they are broken
Hi, is that true fact? like I thought a bone would knit up weaker or maybe just the same as before?? it grow together even stronger than before?? how does it happen? cos then like breaking bones is good idea no?? :) thank you
 

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Just a point of order...

Just because something is called a syndrome doesn't mean it's not a disease. Nor does it mean it's cause is unknown.

AIDS - Acquired Immuno Deficiency SYNDROME. It's a disease. It's cause is known (Human Immunodeficiency Virus, aka HIV).

Now back to our regularly scheduled ranting...
they called it before they knew the cause, when they knew what it was all about they called it hiv. Hadn't you wondered why the name change
 

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Hi, is that true fact? like I thought a bone would knit up weaker or maybe just the same as before?? it grow together even stronger than before?? how does it happen? cos then like breaking bones is good idea no?? :) thank you

No, it's not a true fact. As I said before, broken bones should heal stronger, but this isn't always true. Some ancient martial arts would advocate the breaking of bones and intentional micro-fracture hardening to strengthen them. I'm not sure exactly how it works, but I think it has something to do with the calcium buildup in your bones when they heal, something like your body's own way of mending itself with stronger bones. I've also heard where Kung Fu stylists would do this to create solid knots in their bones to be used like the sawing ridges on a preying mantid's forearms. However, those are very ancient practices. I don't think modern Kung Fu masters of medicine would agree that bone-hardening is a good idea. Besides genetical factors which differ from person to person (some people may have weaker bones), these practices also increase the risk of arthritis and could cause pain with old age. The ankle and heel area is an easy place to break because there are so many tiny bones in our feet. I have tiny micro-fractures in my hands and feet that have healed over time. My hands and feet are not deformed, but sometimes when there's a cold storm or it rains, I can feel the soreness in my bones. When this happens, it may become necessary to stretch, rotate, massage and wiggle the affected areas around my finger joints, toe knuckles, wrists and ankles. This usually helps to loosen up the ligaments and prevent further arthritis.
 
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they called it before they knew the cause, when they knew what it was all about they called it hiv. Hadn't you wondered why the name change

They called the disease several things before settling on the term AIDS. After the specific virus (cause) was found, the virus itself was named HIV (after a few name changes).

The disease itself is called HIV in the initial/beginning stages, and AIDS in the progressive stage(s).

Not that this has anything whatsoever to do with broken ankles, rehab, and returning to MA.
 

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They called the disease several things before settling on the term AIDS. After the specific virus (cause) was found, the virus itself was named HIV (after a few name changes).

The disease itself is called HIV in the initial/beginning stages, and AIDS in the progressive stage(s).

Not that this has anything whatsoever to do with broken ankles, rehab, and returning to MA.
who calls it aids in the final stages?
 

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who calls it aids in the final stages?

A lot of people do.

I didn't say "final stages," I said "progressive stages." Although many sources confusingly claim it as final stages.

A very simplified source, which was the first one I found in a "difference between hiv and aids" web search...

HIV vs. AIDS: Whats the Difference?

This wasn't my original source of information by any means.
 
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Hi, is that true fact? like I thought a bone would knit up weaker or maybe just the same as before?? it grow together even stronger than before?? how does it happen? cos then like breaking bones is good idea no?? :) thank you

My M.D. orthopod friends say that it is false. They say bones that are broken do NOT heal stronger than they were prior to the break.

I had always heard that they heal stronger but, at least in my small sample polling, 4 or 5 orthos say that it is a myth.
 

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Sounds like a situation with me. Broke my ankle a few months into judo (didn't get it checked until a few weeks after, we'll save that story for another day). What I did was just kept going back after it healed. PT, like some other people said, really helps, especially if you listen and do all your exercises at home (the ones they tell you to do, at least).

Ankle Strengthening Following Broken Ankle - Ask the Experts - PhysioRoom.com

I'm not sure how credible or accurate this website is, but some of the exercises look like what I did, and still do on occasion (this break was a little over a year ago, it gets stiff in muggy weather but at least I'll know if I need a raincoat :D). I wouldn't jump in without consulting your doc, but this can give you an idea of what kind of PT you'll be doing.

Also, go easy! It doesn't bode well to rush into things, especially in a sport like TKD where the foot (and ankle, really) is being used so frequently/forcefully.

Welcome to MT. I myself am new to the scene.
 
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