Okay so electronic Hogu's will be a requirement in 2009 at the World's.
http://www.wtf.org/site/news/wtf.htm?realnum=232&mode=view
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Electronic Hogu's in 2009!
- Thread starter Brian R. VanCise
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Miles
Senior Master
This will be interesting! My observations at Nationals this year was that in order to register a point, the impact had to be pretty hard. I hope that as the electronic hogu becomes the standard that the prices come down!
Yes the point of impact needs to be more than tag, lets hope this will help for those competitors out there that never seem to get a point for some reason.
Ninjamom
2nd Black Belt
Did you notice that a solid punch scored?!?! I think this might bring about some very positive changes in scoring and tactics.
Yes but until they allow punching to the head, we will never be really appreciated.
igillman
Purple Belt
I would like to see the points based upon how hard the hit was. That way a good, solid, square on smack scores more than a glancing blow. The electronic system of scoring would also mean that you would not have to stop the fight when points are awarded. That would allow a more sustained approach to the fights instead of the hokey-cokey they do right now.
Ninjamom
2nd Black Belt
Agreed
From the manufacturer's website: "(Wireless Headshot Scoring Device available separately)"
Great to see that it only scores solid hits, and I'm impressed that it can distinguish between a kick and a knee or elbow. I'd love to try one of those out!
While I agree 100% with this (having done ITF in the past), I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with full-contact punching to the head. I'm not sure how this works in other sports / arts but I'm aware that with boxing there are some long-term negative effects?
I would definitley prefer this to the stop-start point scoring system. If the WTF truly wanted a great spectator sport this is the first change I would make.igillman said:
FearlessFreep
Senior Master
I'd say that a hit is a hit is a score and open up the rules set to allow techniques that hit..rather than worry about whether it's a knee or an elbow or an instep or a heel. It is a martial sport after all...
That would be the ideal situation, but I'm looking at it from a "1 step at a time" approach. I was commenting on the abilities of the hogu, rather than agreeing with the ruleset
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On the hands issue, why not use them to the head we do when we have to fo SD, so why not in the ring as well. We can always use oversize gloves and better head gear.
FearlessFreep
Senior Master
OK, stupid question but why use hogus at all?
Consider this. Boxers train with head gear and other protective ways of not killing each other, but then fight without all that stuff. So do MMA fighters and such. Why does Tae Kwon Do fall into the areas of 'compete with body armor' (WTF rules) or 'compete without touching (point rules)
There are a lot of ways to 'train safe' and then 'compete hard'
I tend to think that hogus and pads and headgear an such could work well as part of the training regime to avoid certain kinds of injuries
I think if you got rid of all the padding, you would end up seeing fighters using tactics and techniques that would get away a lot of the types of things we complain about 'not being realistic'. I mean, yes, you always are going to have safety rules in any sport that makes it 'no realistic' but...good grief... olympic sparring is so far removed from any practicality with the tactics and techniques it encourages and allows.
Maybe a lot less 8 yo kids who treat TKD like a glorified dance/soccer/after school babysitter but a lot more recognition of TKD as a serious martial art with a serious sport component
Consider this. Boxers train with head gear and other protective ways of not killing each other, but then fight without all that stuff. So do MMA fighters and such. Why does Tae Kwon Do fall into the areas of 'compete with body armor' (WTF rules) or 'compete without touching (point rules)
There are a lot of ways to 'train safe' and then 'compete hard'
I tend to think that hogus and pads and headgear an such could work well as part of the training regime to avoid certain kinds of injuries
I think if you got rid of all the padding, you would end up seeing fighters using tactics and techniques that would get away a lot of the types of things we complain about 'not being realistic'. I mean, yes, you always are going to have safety rules in any sport that makes it 'no realistic' but...good grief... olympic sparring is so far removed from any practicality with the tactics and techniques it encourages and allows.
Maybe a lot less 8 yo kids who treat TKD like a glorified dance/soccer/after school babysitter but a lot more recognition of TKD as a serious martial art with a serious sport component
