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23 Indonesians dead in crush for cash handout

By IRWAN FIRDAUS, Associated Press Writer
Mon Sep 15, 6:49 AM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_re_as/indonesia_stampede_deaths
JAKARTA, Indonesia - At least 23 Indonesians were crushed to death Monday while trying to collect $4.25 in cash handouts from a rich family at a charity event marking the Islamic holy month, officials said. Eight others were critically injured in the stampede.

Several thousand people started gathering outside the house in Pasuruan, a town about 500 miles (800 kilometers) east of the capital of Jakarta, in the morning to collect their tithe, said local police chief Harry Sitompul.
Television footage showed the victims — mostly women — screaming as they were pushed into the fence outside the home. At least 23 died and eight others were hospitalized, Sitompul said, some after being trampled and others from lack of oxygen.
Many of Indonesia's 220 million Muslims fast during the daylight hours of Ramadan.
Under a system known as Zakat, the wealthy are required to give away a portion of their money to the poor, but distribution is often chaotic and sometimes deadly. Many donors choose to hand out gifts directly, worried that corrupt government officials will try to pocket some of the cash.
"It's tragic and embarrassing," said Social Affairs Minister Bachtiar Chamzah. "It goes to show that we have to find a better way ... we have to fix this."
Four dollars and a quarter probably isn't much over here, doesn't even buy a gallon of gas in most places. But apparently it's enough to die for over there.
The answer to "fix this" is right there in their faces. Get rid of the corrupt government officials that'll pocket the cash and part of the solution is taken care of. Having an orderly line or manner or something where one person at a time comes in... yeah it'll take a long time to do but at least no one gets killed for "a pocket full of mumbles such are promises..."
Really sad that the poor there are being charitied to death.
 

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Really sad that the poor there are being charitied to death.

Indeed. However, I wouldn't get too comfortable about such behavior being "over there" with the poor brown masses.

"Sheffield, England; 95 people are crushed to death at an English FA Cup semifinal game between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest, when police open gates to alleviate crowding outside Hillsborough Stadium. The resulting rush of people onto the already filled terrace sections traps fans against riot control fences ringing the field. " Link
 

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Assume that any large crowd is one beer shy of a riot and you'll never get caught in a situation like this.
 
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Not talking about rock concerts, soccer games or any other event where people PAY to be in a large crowd here...
Talking about the POOR so desperate to get any amount of money so they (AND their families) can EAT that they get in a mass and end up dying. Is that going to happen here? Of course not... The Trumps, Gates, Rockerfellers and other so called BILLIONAIRES of this country will be damned if they're going to give up any of what's THEIRS.
Oh and never mind their pitiful pithy donations to charities around the world ... my question is are they feeding/helping AMERICANS ??
 

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Not talking about rock concerts, soccer games or any other event where people PAY to be in a large crowd here...
Talking about the POOR so desperate to get any amount of money so they (AND their families) can EAT that they get in a mass and end up dying. Is that going to happen here? Of course not... The Trumps, Gates, Rockerfellers and other so called BILLIONAIRES of this country will be damned if they're going to give up any of what's THEIRS.
Oh and never mind their pitiful pithy donations to charities around the world ... my question is are they feeding/helping AMERICANS ??

Hey, at least give the Trumps, Gates, and Rockerfellers credit - unlike the rich folks in the story you posted, they're not turning their charity into a big honkin' bum fight.
 

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Maybe it salves his conscience having 'stolen' the OS that opened the door that made his billions?

That's off-topic I know but altho' he is now doing some good with his cash it still doesn't wipe clean the dubious means by which Mirco$oft got going.
 

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