Okay. But that doesn't seem to change my conclusion. If two bodies starting from the same situation experience the same acceleration, and one of them is under that acceleration longer, it will be going faster.
Would you label this a spinning back kick or side kick or hybrid?
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Who was right?
Pretty sure it still doesn't say what you think it says.
No, you're pretty much stating your own view of non-responsibility.
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Can everybody stop being pretty and actually refute the bastard?
That post sent before I finished writing for some reason, I think I hit post instead of the text box. Go back and read it again-jobo was right. It comes down to a difference in scientific vs. regular vernacular, for both the word deceleration, and the word speed.
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me,
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thanks, iim not sure abybody has ever said that on here before, thanks for takibg the time
Not necessary to refute a claim when the evidence he provided does that for me.
And I'll never stop being pretty.
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Answer this bobo; Why are back kicks considered more powerful than side kicks? You may find the answer in the words used..
To be fair, I don't think most people admit they're wrong to anyone on here. Just figure out a way to change the argument to something else when they realize it.
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have you bother to read your fellow mmoderaters post where he has agreed with me and posted considerable evidence to that effect? thought not!Not necessary to refute a claim when the evidence he provided does that for me.
And I'll never stop being pretty.
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i answer that in one of the many factual posts youve ignored, its practically a back stamp, that uses the glutes( and the quads) far more efficiently,
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Which happens regardless of whether I spin or simply turn my back
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as ive said several times, the amount of extra energy from a spin is a low % of the total, as your changing vector,( direction) .
thats if it adds any at all, which is down to technique, ie acceleratibg through the spin rather than just spinning quickly
the more energy the kick has naturally , the less you gain in % terms from the spin kick
so your left with somethibg that doesbt add a great deal, but adds a lot of time and if you cant land it as he has moved, then there is no benifit, even a tiny one in doing it at all
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I just said regardless of whether I spin or not. I can't start from a position with my back towards the opponent. That would make no sense.
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well you can if he is behibd you which happens quite a lot in real world fights, and hardly at all in sparring
other wise you have to turn to do a back kick, but thats a normal back kick, a spinning back kick is where you add extra spin. hence why they call it that
if your asking does the half turn make it mire enetgetic, then the same answer applies, maybe, a bit or maybe not
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Then you agree that it is a back kick and not a side kick since I'm hardly spinning but I do turn around. Good. You refuted yourself.
I'm a karateka who thinks it's not a back kick because of the position of the leg and foot, the back will turn to the target in a number of spinning kicks, the act of spinning means your back will be to the target at some point hence the gentlemen arguing over the speed etc.
I don't know if that's a back kick in any other style, I'll stick to my 40 years experience in karate.
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The half turn doesn't but the technique does, and the technique is usually drilled turning around rather than already standing with the back to the target
