Blade96
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maybe its not though......
and btw bill please make more threads that wander off topic.....they are fun
Why Ann Coulter is great.
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maybe its not though......
and btw bill please make more threads that wander off topic.....they are fun
maybe its not though......
and btw bill please make more threads that wander off topic.....they are fun
Those are the only ones he makes....
Anybody not eating ham is suspect to me....
no, wait...that means more ham for me.... carry on!
ballen0351
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Anybody not eating ham is suspect to me....
no, wait...that means more ham for me.... carry on!
and BACON !!!!!!!!!!
Blade96
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*while those two fight over the bacon, Blade96 sneaks in a steals it*
Yoink.
Now its my bacon.
Yoink.
Now its my bacon.
*while those two fight over the bacon, Blade96 sneaks in a steals it*
Yoink.
Now its my bacon.
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Blade96
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teeheehee. catch me if you can *runs*
bushidomartialarts
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Bushido, this is my point, Ann Coulter is not a facist, a facist is a socialist, and Ann Coulter is a free market capitalist, who loves the declaration of Independence and the constitution of the U.S. These three things do not even come close to being facist in nature. Also, it was the socialists who murdered the handicapped, gays and gypsies, not the free market capitalists. Henry, try to get it right next time and your bit will actually be funny. Oh, and it was the democrats who owned slaves, wanted to restart the slave trade with africa, who wanted slavery expanded into the new states, who seperated from the union over slavery, fired the first shots to keep slavery, murdered the first republican president because he freed the slaves, started the Ku Klux Klan to supress the slaves freed by republicans, started segregation, and the jim crow laws, used nightsticks and fire hoses against the freedom riders. So please Henry, try to get it right next time. thanks.
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WC_lun
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I know I'm probably beating a dead horse, but being a fascist does not mean you are socialist, no more than being a socilaist means you are fascist. Want proof? Look at the number of socialist governments in Europe. Now how many of those are fascist?
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Thomas Sowell addresses this in his book, Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini are the totalitarian left. The governments you mention are the democratic left. Also, facist is a term coined by Mussolini as his name for his brand of national socialism. The governments you mention, although closer to his principles, would not fall under the term facist unless they were italian, national socialism.
From earlier in this thread: "What distinguished Fascist movements in general from Communist movements was that the Communists were officially committed to governmental ownership of the means of production,while fascists permitted private ownership of the means of production, so long as government directed the private owner's decisions and limited what profit rates they could recieve. Both were totalitarian dictatorships but Communists were officially internationalist while Fascists were officially nationalist. However, Stalin's proclaimed policy of "Socialism in one country" was not very different from the Fascists' proclaimed policy of national socialism"
From Chapter 4, Left and Right dichotomay, from Thomas Sowell's book, "intellectuals and Society":
"In short, the notion that Communists and Fascists were at polar opposite poles ideologically WAS NOT TRUE, even in theory, much less in practice. As for similarities and differences between these two totalitarian movements and liberalism on the one hand, or conservatism(American) on the other, there was far more similarity between these totalitarian's agendas and those ot the left than with the agendas of most conservatives. FOR EXAMPLE, AMONG THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDAS OF THE FASCISTS IN ITALY AND/OR THE NAZIS IN GERMANY WERE:
1-GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF WAGES AND HOURS OF WORK
2-HIGHER TAXES ON THE WEALTHY
3-GOVERNMENT-SET LIMITS ON PROFITS
4-GOVERNMENT CARE FOR THE ELDERLY
5-A DECREASED EMPHASIS ON THE ROLE OF RELIGION AND THE FAMILY IN PERSONAL OR SOCIAL DECISIONS
6GOVERNMENT TAKING ON THE ROLE OF CHANGING THE NATURE OF PEOPLE, USUALLY BEGINNING IN EARLY CHILDHOOD....
THESE ARE OF COURSE THINGS OPPOSED BY MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED "CONSERVATIVES" IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THEY ARE THINGS MUCH MORE CONGENIAL TO THE GENERAL APPROACH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED "LIBERALS" IN THE AMERICAN POLITICAL CONTEXT.
The list above shows that Ann Coulter is not a facist. You could call her a capitalist, however.
From earlier in this thread: "What distinguished Fascist movements in general from Communist movements was that the Communists were officially committed to governmental ownership of the means of production,while fascists permitted private ownership of the means of production, so long as government directed the private owner's decisions and limited what profit rates they could recieve. Both were totalitarian dictatorships but Communists were officially internationalist while Fascists were officially nationalist. However, Stalin's proclaimed policy of "Socialism in one country" was not very different from the Fascists' proclaimed policy of national socialism"
From Chapter 4, Left and Right dichotomay, from Thomas Sowell's book, "intellectuals and Society":
"In short, the notion that Communists and Fascists were at polar opposite poles ideologically WAS NOT TRUE, even in theory, much less in practice. As for similarities and differences between these two totalitarian movements and liberalism on the one hand, or conservatism(American) on the other, there was far more similarity between these totalitarian's agendas and those ot the left than with the agendas of most conservatives. FOR EXAMPLE, AMONG THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDAS OF THE FASCISTS IN ITALY AND/OR THE NAZIS IN GERMANY WERE:
1-GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF WAGES AND HOURS OF WORK
2-HIGHER TAXES ON THE WEALTHY
3-GOVERNMENT-SET LIMITS ON PROFITS
4-GOVERNMENT CARE FOR THE ELDERLY
5-A DECREASED EMPHASIS ON THE ROLE OF RELIGION AND THE FAMILY IN PERSONAL OR SOCIAL DECISIONS
6GOVERNMENT TAKING ON THE ROLE OF CHANGING THE NATURE OF PEOPLE, USUALLY BEGINNING IN EARLY CHILDHOOD....
THESE ARE OF COURSE THINGS OPPOSED BY MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED "CONSERVATIVES" IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THEY ARE THINGS MUCH MORE CONGENIAL TO THE GENERAL APPROACH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED "LIBERALS" IN THE AMERICAN POLITICAL CONTEXT.
The list above shows that Ann Coulter is not a facist. You could call her a capitalist, however.
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So the word of a right leaning economist, who tries to shoehorn fascism to the left to distance American Conservatism is to be taken over political scientists and historians whose purpose is to actually define political systems?
That Hitler chose to name his party National Socialism does not make it any more socialist than North Korea calling themselves the Democratic People's Republic of Korea make it a Republic or a Democracy.
There are plenty of socialist counties around. Scandinavia, most of Europe, Canada. None are anywhre near what Nazi Germany was.
That Hitler chose to name his party National Socialism does not make it any more socialist than North Korea calling themselves the Democratic People's Republic of Korea make it a Republic or a Democracy.
There are plenty of socialist counties around. Scandinavia, most of Europe, Canada. None are anywhre near what Nazi Germany was.
According to Goebbels it does.....
That communist bastard!
