Thought I'd share this tip...

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  1. andyjeffries

    andyjeffries Master of Arts

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    A few months ago I picked up on the fact that although I was showing people their mistakes and they would correct them if I moved them during that session, it seemed to quickly fizzle out and they'd go back to doing it their old way.

    Then I started using my iPad to film people doing poomsae and kicks and showed them on the video. After the first session I also bought an app called Coach's Eye (I've no business or personal relationship with them, just a happy customer) that allows you to frame-by-frame the action and annotate it with lines and arrows.

    This has been quite frankly great! I've had improvements in students after a single session videoing a few poomsae that would have taken weeks of nagging (don't forget you're doing X during this part) to get.

    Anyway, I don't know who out there is trying to make better use of technology during their instruction, but I thought I'd post a recommendation for this method (and that app).
     
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    This app is so cool. We use it in poomsae all the time now.
     
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    Great tip!!! I use the iPad to help at referee's meetings (teaching new referees how to ref) and have found that the iPad is great for being able to play back the action. But this app sounds awesome. Thanks.
     
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    Been filming for a few years now with the iPhone and iPad. Also got the Coaches Eye a few months ago and have been using that as well. Love this app and it has helped. It was a parent that introduced me to the app. He was a parent that came to our school from another school.

    But even without the CE app there is no better way to see your mistakes than recording yourself. Many don't know what they are doing wrong even when you tell them, but for some reason once they see it themselves they understand and then start to realize when they do it and can correct it. There is a reason Football, Basketball and other high profile sports use film.
     
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    Thanks a million for that tip. I've gone to three kyorugi tournaments over the last four months where I have seen extensive use of the i-pad and that's driving me to switch from video, which I've used for many years. I've always been frustrated by the clumsiness on reviewing unedited copy in the field, on the camera. The ap sounds awesome.
     
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    Great idea! To go along with this, i have seen (actually at a gymnastics place) is to use low price security cameras. You can hook them up to a tv and just rewind the video. This allows students to watch themselves easily and in class.
     
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    Thanks for the tip, Mr. Jeffries. I checked out the app and it looks cool. I'm looking forward to trying it out at the dojang!
     
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    Thanks Andy. I grabbed a copy right after I first saw your post, and I've been using it quite a bit. Very good app.
     
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    Where this app beats the simple setup you describe is the ability to frame-by-frame the action and draw lines and arrows on the screen (this is useful in describing how the motion should happen, or demonstrating correct height of strikes).

    Glad those of you that have tried it are liking it.
     
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    sorry i missed this til now. This looks like a great app. Im def interested.

    thanks!!!
     
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    I'm going to check this out this software, it sounds very cool.

    But...

    Some parents went berserk when they found out my former TSD teacher filmed students for the same purpose. I would definitely add a section about filming studens, especially kids, in your contracts or waivers. I suppose technology is more accepted now but all it takes is one paranoid parent and a lawsuit.

    ~Rob
     
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    Does anybody know of a similer application that works on a PC based computer?
     
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    I think using the app on a PC defeats the advantage of the technology. The big advantage of using an I-Pad is that you shoot the video and use the AP for immediate review on the I-Pad. If you load the software on a PC, would you shoot the video with a video camera and download the video to the PC?
     
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    There are Windows and Android based tablets out there... at least for the moment.

    Couple of law suits are going in different directions on some of the patent stuff there, but the reality is there will be non-Apple tablets and the like.
     
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    Here is an opportunity for you brave beta testers with Android devices: The Cyclops Project
     
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    My BJJ coach used to do this for our private sessions, send me an annotated video afterwards. It's still useful, but I agree not as useful as immediate feedback, so you can try the correction in the moment.

    In this vein, another thing that Coach's Eye does is let you upload the annotated version to their servers and email a link to the student. This means they have a copy to review at home with your voice overlay and arrows and to compare in a few months for improvement.123
     

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