The importance of Kata

[Tez3]

Actually winning competitions require and extra sumthin sumthin, on the presentation side, and it is not uncommon to practice like that all the time.

Kata's weren't designed or meant for competition so practising like that doesn't make it correct, kata's are still meant for civilian unarmed defence, you can turn a lot of things into a competition but it doesn't make it right.

 

[Flying Crane]

Actually winning competitions require and extra sumthin sumthin, on the presentation side, and it is not uncommon to practice like that all the time.

And that is what destroys kata as a viable training tool.

 

[Touch Of Death]

And that is what destroys kata as a viable training tool.

Maybe some aspects. It is OK to turn it up with kenpo forms.

 

[PhotonGuy]

No, just no. You have been badly taught.

Alright, if I was badly taught than tell me this, how should you do a kata?

 

[Touch Of Death]

Alright, if I was badly taught than tell me this, how should you do a kata?

Squint your eyes, like Steven Segal, moves slowly, and make guttural breathing noses, of course.

 

[Touch Of Death]

And that is what destroys kata as a viable training tool.

Maybe a lung form....

 

[Tez3]

Alright, if I was badly taught than tell me this, how should you do a kata?

You already have the answer, I gave it to you earlier.
Performing the Katas | Iain Abernethy

 

[EMT]

I'm still standing on a position that kicking air is not as effective as sparring or a pad workout

The importance of sparring

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

I'm still standing on a position that kicking air is not as effective as sparring or a pad workout

The importance of sparring

You won't have training partner 24/7. What do you do when training partner is not available?

 

[donald1]

i always thought this movie was kinda funny. despite his minimal training he beat all these other guys who have far more training experience. kobra kai and these other karate schools cant hold a candle to miyagi's teaching skills!

 

[JR 137]

You won't have training partner 24/7. What do you do when training partner is not available?

Hit a bag. Heavy bag, speed bag, double ended bag, etc.

I'm not completely agreeing with EMT, I'm just stating that solo training can be against resistance such as a bag.

 

[drop bear]

You won't have training partner 24/7. What do you do when training partner is not available?

Sprawls.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

Hit a bag. Heavy bag, speed bag, double ended bag, etc.

I'm not completely agreeing with EMT, I'm just stating that solo training can be against resistance such as a bag.

I do agree that

partner drill > sparring/wrestling > bag/equipment training > solo training

developing > testing > enhancing > polishing

 

[JR 137]

Sprawls.

Sit outs, sit out/turn ins, stand ups, penetration step, I guess you could do spinning if you have a solid/stable ottoman that's sized right. Spin one way for 30 sec, throw a crossface, then go the other way. Repeat until you puke.

I hated spinning. Actually, I despised it. Being the bottom guy with your partner spinning on top of you is almost as bad.

 

[PhotonGuy]

i always thought this movie was kinda funny. despite his minimal training he beat all these other guys who have far more training experience. kobra kai and these other karate schools cant hold a candle to miyagi's teaching skills!

That's why its called a movie.

 

[CB Jones]

I'm still standing on a position that kicking air is not as effective as sparring or a pad workout

The importance of sparring

Can you not do both?

Where you train they don't allow different training drills/exercises/etc...?

 

[drop bear]

Kata's weren't designed or meant for competition so practising like that doesn't make it correct, kata's are still meant for civilian unarmed defence, you can turn a lot of things into a competition but it doesn't make it right.

And so the idea that who cares what people train so long as they are happy is thrown out the window.

 

[Tez3]

I'm still standing on a position that kicking air is not as effective as sparring or a pad workout

The importance of sparring

You seem to think kata is instead of sparring, it's not, it's another tool to use for training. One does both. Kata is for training self defence techniques, sparring is sparring. Two quite different things with different purposes.

Being the bottom guy with your partner spinning on top of you is almost as bad.

We had a guy who when we told him he needed to take out his nipple ring, laughed...........

 

[Headhunter]

I'm still standing on a position that kicking air is not as effective as sparring or a pad workout

The importance of sparring

So you don't shadow box then?

 

[drop bear]

So you don't shadow box then?

Shadow boxing is for sport. Kata is for civilian self defense.

Nope that doesn't make sense at all.