SKK Combos

[Hand Sword]

(that's how we emphasized it too)

 

[SK101]

Two variations on the guard(hand position as you move away or lean).

1- Bring hands above right shoulder. Advantage is power.
2- bring hands only to the left side of your head. Advantage is protection.

Basics on 20- I know people posting here will have these, but it's good to review and maybe there are others reading who don't have these or haven't heard them in awhile.

When you feel extremly comfortable with a DM(Combo) stay close to the attack. It is hard to counter when you have a distance to cover.

Always off balance an opponent before hawking them down.

Palm to the chest is often taught in the place of Tiger's mouth to throat for safety.

Tiger's mouth to throat leads into another attack that is extremly dangerous to practice early on.

When holding the opponent's elbow keep him at a 45 degree angle.

An opponent on the floor has the balance advantage since they can't fall.

 

[SK101]

Final Strikes on 20 - Does anyone have reasons for where they strike? I.E. on DM 4 immortal mans to the eyes creates intense presure on the temples than you strike the temples with the trigger fingers or trigger fingers to the temples "bugs" the eyes out then you stick immortal mans in them.

I have front punch to temple then shuto to nose to end 20. I don't recall ever hearing a reason given for the strikes besides there nice targets.

Anyone have variations and/or reasons?

 

[marlon]

#20 - Slight side step to the right, really more of a weight shift to the right, since we start in a fighting stance anyway. Both hands chamber high over the right shoulder. Step drag inward with the left foot. Left knife hand strikes the opponents lower right arm. Right downward knife hand strikes the opponents left clavicle. Left arm wraps the opponents right arm above the right elbow. Right leg hock down with right hand tigers mouth to the throat. Finish the same, right front punch to the face, right circular knife hand strike to the nose.

We shift wieght to the right and the hands move with you and only slightly raised for protection and power. The strikes i have are to the arm and to the right cheek bone striking slightly upwards. The step is extremely important for positioning, power and distruption of the attacker's platform to counter. After the arm wrap we do a tiger mouth to the throat and continue to walk towards 10:30 for the takedown..no leg hock (the power of this move can be seen in a Segal movie...something with him on a train...the hock is not necessary. at the end we brace the arm on the left shin , thrust to the head and spear poke to the arm pit.
the shift at the beginning i look at more as angling for attack than an escape but also good for that.

Respectfully,
Marlon

 

[14 Kempo]

We shift wieght to the right and the hands move with you and only slightly raised for protection and power. The strikes i have are to the arm and to the right cheek bone striking slightly upwards. The step is extremely important for positioning, power and distruption of the attacker's platform to counter. After the arm wrap we do a tiger mouth to the throat and continue to walk towards 10:30 for the takedown..no leg hock (the power of this move can be seen in a Segal movie...something with him on a train...the hock is not necessary. at the end we brace the arm on the left shin , thrust to the head and spear poke to the arm pit.
the shift at the beginning i look at more as angling for attack than an escape but also good for that.

Respectfully,
Marlon

I'm certainly liking the different strike points. With the very aggressive move made inward, it is sometimes hard to get onto the clavicle at the angle necessary. I like the tigers mouth to the throat and the cheekbone attack ... nice ... got me thinking as well, maybe even an elbow strike. I definately need to experiment more with #20.

 

[Gufbal1982]

Two variations on the guard(hand position as you move away or lean).

1- Bring hands above right shoulder. Advantage is power.
2- bring hands only to the left side of your head. Advantage is protection.

Basics on 20- I know people posting here will have these, but it's good to review and maybe there are others reading who don't have these or haven't heard them in awhile.

When you feel extremly comfortable with a DM(Combo) stay close to the attack. It is hard to counter when you have a distance to cover.

Always off balance an opponent before hawking them down.

Palm to the chest is often taught in the place of Tiger's mouth to throat for safety.

Tiger's mouth to throat leads into another attack that is extremly dangerous to practice early on.

When holding the opponent's elbow keep him at a 45 degree angle.

An opponent on the floor has the balance advantage since they can't fall.

FVSSD has a different way of doing 20. There way is:

1. Draw in a cat and execute a left outward knifehand block.
2. Wrap the arm with the left while executing a dead arm strike to the collar bone with the right arm.
3. Right tiger's mouth to the throar.
4. Right elbow to the jaw as you leg hawk with the right leg.
5. Front 2 knuckle to the nose with the right followed by a spear hand poke to the throat.

 

[SK101]

DM(Combination) 21 - Right foot steps back w/#2 knifehand block & grab. Step right foot toward opponents right arm with leopard paw to armpit as you step under opponment's arm. Step left foot behind opponent. Left downward elbow meets oppponent's rising arm. Rt.cross hammer to ceribelum.
Right hand grabs back of hair. Right side blade kick to knee placing opponent on the floor. Left spinning hook kick to face. Only release the hair during the kick when you can no longer hold and kick.

The version Villari teaches on his video is more SKish as the hook kick is done with the right leg instead of the left. SK seems to always be right hand/leg dominant in it's techniques.

This technique in my humble opinion has all the earmarks of an overhead club technique except one. The first two strikes are to render the weapon arm useless. the 3rd strike is to knock the person unconcious. 4th strike either immobilizes the opponent by not allowing them to run or puts them into a exposed position. 5th strike takedown with potential face damage.
The only change needed is the starting footwork - Left foot steps toward 11:00 from a horse stance with 6 block & leopard paw to armpit.

 

[Hand Sword]

Right foot side steps, getting out og the attacks path, # 2 open knife hand strike (block for some) to the arm, grab. Right leopard paw to the armpit/shoulder region. Step under the arm with the right foot toward 11 o'clock, spin counter clockwise with left back elbow to gut (still holding arm) on the way thorugh, extending arm. Break with a right hammerfist, then shoot a reverse hammer to the base of the skull. Left stomp behind the knee. Right spinning hook kick to the back of the head.

 

[Hand Sword]

The version Villari teaches on his video is more SKish as the hook kick is done with the right leg instead of the left. SK seems to always be right hand/leg dominant in it's techniques.

That's because where you end up, your left is holding their arm, extending it, which is "pulling backwards. Your left foot is to the rear, putting power into the stomp. and keeping your balance, while doing it. Using your right to do it, while it's in front, would off balance you, especially if they move. The kick with the right (now behind) keeps the flow going.

The right hand dominance is because most people are right handed. If attacked, that's most likely. For defense, that's most likely your coordinated side. Go with your best for real. Anyway, practice on both sides is stressed.

 

[marlon]

#21
lt leg steps with a lt open hand block and leopard paw strike to the brachial nerve plexus (the rt leg must drag to angle off so that the hips are aligned towards 10:30 the leopard paw strike covers your head. the drag of the leg and shift of the hips creates a disbalance in the attacker like 26). Lt hand controls the attacking arm as you step through towards 10:30 with the rt leg and turn ccw you need good torque / circular pull on the arm. rt hammer to the elbow from a horse stance the a rt hammer to the cerebellum (movement whittling (sp?) with a knife a piece of wood) while in a forward stance from shifting the weight not stepping. Lt stomp to the back of the knee step off the knee and a rt spinning hook kcik or axe kick to the head

marlon

 

[Gufbal1982]

#21
lt leg steps with a lt open hand block and leopard paw strike to the brachial nerve plexus (the rt leg must drag to angle off so that the hips are aligned towards 10:30 the leopard paw strike covers your head. the drag of the leg and shift of the hips creates a disbalance in the attacker like 26). Lt hand controls the attacking arm as you step through towards 10:30 with the rt leg and turn ccw you need good torque / circular pull on the arm. rt hammer to the elbow from a horse stance the a rt hammer to the cerebellum (movement whittling (sp?) with a knife a piece of wood) while in a forward stance from shifting the weight not stepping. Lt stomp to the back of the knee step off the knee and a rt spinning hook kcik or axe kick to the head

marlon

I have this with a downward elbow to the elbow instead of a hammer. USSD teaches the end with a right side kick to the knee and end with a left spinning hook kick.

 

[SK101]

DM(Combo) #22 - Pull back into left cat stance w/#5 Knife hand block. Step left foot toward 10:30 landing into 1/2 moon stance while left hand performs snow leopard strike to throat(glancing forearm). Left hand pushes oponent over left leg landing directly behind you. Right glancing heel to ribs, right stomping ball kick to solar plexus, rotate cw 180 degrees facing 9:00, Dropping knee to solar plexus, water bucket strike to face and groin. Cross over cross out toward 9:00.

 

[Gufbal1982]

DM(Combo) #22 - Pull back into left cat stance w/#5 Knife hand block. Step left foot toward 10:30 landing into 1/2 moon stance while left hand performs snow leopard strike to throat(glancing forearm). Left hand pushes oponent over left leg landing directly behind you. Right glancing heel to ribs, right stomping ball kick to solar plexus, rotate cw 180 degrees facing 9:00, Dropping knee to solar plexus, water bucket strike to face and groin. Cross over cross out toward 9:00.

USSD 22: Step behind the opponent with the left foot while doing an open handed 5 block and spear hand poke to the neck (caratid artery) with the left hand while grabbing a hold of the wrist with the right hand. Bring the left arm across the throat . There are 2 ways to do the takedown. One is to sweep with the left leg while pushing them backwards with the left arm. The other is to do a hip displacement with the left leg...it's hard to explain. Either way, let go with the right immediately. Right heel kick to the ribs, right ball stomp to the solar plexus, turn towards the right, knee with the left to the solar, palm to the face and groin and jump off.

FV 22: Openhanded 5 block, 6 block, spear hand to the throat with the right, crosshand shuto with the left. Sweep with the left and follow thru to do an axe kick to the ribs of the downed opponent.

For 23, are we going to do the a,b and c version?

 

[fnorfurfoot]

Our 22 uses more of an overhead hand helping hand block.
The right hand does an open handed number 5 block followed by an open handed number 6 block with the left.
The left hand controls the attacker's hand to the left while the right hand delivers a knife hand strike to the collar bone
The left hand does a cross knife to the throat while the left leg sweeps the attacker's left foot dropping him to backwards to the ground
Right cross-over axe kick to the solar plexus followed by a side blade kick to the throat. (You stay in contact with the guy the whole time. Your foot slides from the axe kick up his chest into his throat while you pivot your left foot for the side kick)

 

[Gufbal1982]

Our 22 uses more of an overhead hand helping hand block.
The right hand does an open handed number 5 block followed by an open handed number 6 block with the left.
The left hand controls the attacker's hand to the left while the right hand delivers a knife hand strike to the collar bone
The left hand does a cross knife to the throat while the left leg sweeps the attacker's left foot dropping him to backwards to the ground
Right cross-over axe kick to the solar plexus followed by a side blade kick to the throat. (You stay in contact with the guy the whole time. Your foot slides from the axe kick up his chest into his throat while you pivot your left foot for the side kick)

Sounds interesting...I'll have to try it out!

 

[SK101]

USSD 22:

For 23, are we going to do the a,b and c version?

A,B,C sounds good to me.

 

[fnorfurfoot]

23A?
Draw back into a cat stance (left leg forward) + Both hands trap and pull attacker to the right
Left foot lunges forward into a half-moon stance + left cross knife to throat + right ridgehand strike to stomach or solar plexus
Left palm heel to face + left knee buckling attacker's right knee

23B?
Draw back into a cat stance (left leg forward) + Both hands trap and pull attacker to the right
Left foot lunges forward into a half-moon stance + Left palm heel to face + Right palm heel to ribs
Left hand hooks jaw + right hand controls attacker's right shoulder
Left hand pulls to the left and right hand pulls shoulder to the right wrenching the attacker's neck.

 

[RevIV]

DM(Combination) 21 - Right foot steps back w/#2 knifehand block & grab. Step right foot toward opponents right arm with leopard paw to armpit as you step under opponment's arm. Step left foot behind opponent. Left downward elbow meets oppponent's rising arm. Rt.cross hammer to ceribelum.
Right hand grabs back of hair. Right side blade kick to knee placing opponent on the floor. Left spinning hook kick to face. Only release the hair during the kick when you can no longer hold and kick.

The version Villari teaches on his video is more SKish as the hook kick is done with the right leg instead of the left. SK seems to always be right hand/leg dominant in it's techniques.

This technique in my humble opinion has all the earmarks of an overhead club technique except one. The first two strikes are to render the weapon arm useless. the 3rd strike is to knock the person unconcious. 4th strike either immobilizes the opponent by not allowing them to run or puts them into a exposed position. 5th strike takedown with potential face damage.
The only change needed is the starting footwork - Left foot steps toward 11:00 from a horse stance with 6 block & leopard paw to armpit.

We do not step back just shift a little to the RT. after we go under arm with Brachial nerve strike and we pull the arm with us we shoot an elbow to the ribs on the step through. (LT elbow holding arm) same strike down on Tricep then backfist to head. grab collar and do a LT chinese heal kick to back of knee pulling apponent back at same time w/ RT, then rt spinning hook kick which is a continueing flow from the chinse heal to a twist. Side note the kick to the back of the head most likely cannot be blocked. Not saying that if you do the entire technique perfect that they would block the left kick, but the possibility is there with the hands in front. I love the variations i am picking up from this thread.
In Peace
Jesse

 

[marlon]

USSD 22: Step behind the opponent with the left foot while doing an open handed 5 block and spear hand poke to the neck (caratid artery) with the left hand while grabbing a hold of the wrist with the right hand. Bring the left arm across the throat . There are 2 ways to do the takedown. One is to sweep with the left leg while pushing them backwards with the left arm. The other is to do a hip displacement with the left leg...it's hard to explain. Either way, let go with the right immediately. Right heel kick to the ribs, right ball stomp to the solar plexus, turn towards the right, knee with the left to the solar, palm to the face and groin and jump off.

FV 22: Openhanded 5 block, 6 block, spear hand to the throat with the right, crosshand shuto with the left. Sweep with the left and follow thru to do an axe kick to the ribs of the downed opponent.

For 23, are we going to do the a,b and c version?

my 22 is your FV version but with a stomp on the chest to finish. The emphasis is to unbalance the person to the rear with the two rising motions accompanied with a strong forward stance to 11:00. The takedown is accomplished more with the hip than a sweep (you need to be very close in...the move works well from a grabbing / standing clinch situation as well). It should not stop and start *** continuous motion is necessary for the unbalancing to be effective and useful

Respectfully,
marlon

 

[marlon]

i let go of the a b c variations and just do Prof. I's version which was my 23a with an alternate ending. the essential move from 23b i have in a kempo / animal from Shihan
23
right leg steps back into a left cats stance (long step) with a Buhdda swallow (right hand palm up recieving left dropping knife hitting lung 6 and sliding/ pulling to the wrist) twist hips cw bracing left forearm in the attcking arm (careful easy elbow dislocation here...speaking from experiance it takes no power to do)step in to 11:00 with the left leg into a forward stance with a left reverse knife to the ribs (the return motion of the hips /waist giving power as well as the sinking of the center with the change of stance) right knife hand to the plexus, then simultaneaous left tiger mouth the the occiput and right tiger mouth to the throat (let the right thumb ride up to penetrate underneath the tmj) tilt the head back and step behind uke for a throw using uke's head of course. Kempo is sooo nice

Respectfully,
Marlon