Run away from no-mask people

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  1. Steve

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    If you could share a link. I looked through the Oxford website and didn't find anything to support your claim.
     
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    yes, 2% of 300,000,000 is a lot of people, but come on to completely ruin the lives of the other 98% because of the financial meltdown, in fact america financial l melt down will plunge countless millions around the globe in to poverty, is a step to far, when all they( the vulnerable) have to do is stop home and if they wont do that they have volunteered
     
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    il have a look, i havent read it, only a report about it
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    2% of 65 million is a lot of people, and it's very possible that if we don't get our act together, we'll hit that mark.

    To be clear, I'm talking about wearing a mask and being sensible, not shutting everything down. We've had some real missteps in this country, where a stimulus bill actually did more to bailout the wealthy and we're looking at a real **** show for a lot of folks once landlords start acting on those evictions they've got all queued up. I agree completely that our country has suffered greatly from lack of leadership at the top.
     
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    Thanks for spelling that out. I hadn't gotten around to looking for (or running, myself) the numbers on what that would % would mean with projected (and derived) infection rates.
     
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    Actually, no it doesn't. It suggests that everything we know needs an adjustment. We know (by testing the math and using physical experiments) that most of it is correct - there are just some parts we (the human race) haven't gotten around to looking at until relatively recently, so the assumptions about what happens at those levels are likely incorrect. That doesn't magically invalidate everything above it, any more than the discovery of smaller particles invalidated the entirety of the physics built upon the assumption that nothing was smaller than an atom.

    As for the rest, you're just arguing to argue. You know it, and so do I.
     
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    "completely ruin"?

    And have you factored in the cost - both economic and psychological - of more people dying? Or are you just assuming the economy will be spectacular while more people die?
     
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    No-maskers don't think about the welfare of other people. All they care about is their own welfare, which is why they only care about the effect of the mask on the wearer, not on the people around the wearer.

    A big problem with individualist societies is their very narrow definition of "kin."
     
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    but you haven't stopped people dieing and your ruining the economy, so,,,,,
     
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    well no9, quantum mechanics indicates that what ever you've just measured almost certainly doesn't exist, that somewhat more than an adjustment
     
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    From the CDC: Janet Parker was the last person to die of smallpox. It was 1978, and Parker was a medical photographer at the Birmingham University Medical School in England and worked one floor above the Medical Microbiology Department where smallpox research was being conducted. She became ill on August 11 and developed a rash on August 15 but was not diagnosed with smallpox until 9 days later.

    I'm confident will we overcome this pandemic. But someone will be the last person to die. I don't want that to be me or anyone I know.
     
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    why is being the last to die worse than being the third last to die ?
     
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    im wondering what went wrong , that someone working in a building with smallpox get a rash and doesnt think @@i wonder if thats small pox
     
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    Yeah. You clarified your claim after the initial post. My comment was on how I read the claim.
     
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    Well I am distrustful of these experts given how many were bribed to class deaths as COVID deaths, the situations under which deaths are labelled COVID deaths, and also just the fact that they seem to think 6 people mixing is safe, but as soon as it becomes 7, I get fined.
     
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    no ivan dont ask reasonable scientific question or they will just start calling you stupid

    over here we have a 10pm curfew, coz covid only come out at night to dance
     
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    That's not on the experts, that's on the public health representatives who have to interpret the experts, and balance public safety with people's desire to do what they want. Don't blame the experts.
     
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