No. pro show by any means, just two different animals. These are meets for all belts all levels. If they come they come. If not, you still need to rent the space because you cannot assume they are not coming. The sparring event we are involved in use the electronic scoring system with the triggers and all. You need a PA system to announce instructions to all the competitor across the entire venu. Remember these are bracketed events not 1 on 1 and that is it. So there are 1st, 2nd, and 3rd placing. Just two different types of events is all.