One leg spinning back kick

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  1. Buka

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    We've been using that kick for well over forty years.

    And the best counter to that kick, which you have to watch out for when throwing it, is the person holding the foot or the leg - let's go when you throw it. You usually screw yourself into the ground, hard.
     
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  2. Monkey Turned Wolf

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    I learned that kick when I was like 9. Thought it was fun at first, then thought it was silly, then thought it was a balance exercise. Cool to see it actually used.
     
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    ha ha ha.. soooooooo True. I actually have a video of this exact same thing. The key to prevent that is to not depend on the person holding the foot. Think of it as putting as much weight on one leg to escape the grip and the other leg to kick. If you do the kick as if the person is going to continue to hold you, then that's when you get that nasty fall.
     
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    Anyone wanna grab my foot for a moment?
     
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    Karate version of 'pull my finger' ?
     
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    The knock-out kick really impressive even the opponent was not expecting it.
     
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    Nothing new, but Wow! Great clip. It was wonderfully executed however in a combat setting. I have practiced this move on the heavy bag, but never threw it in sparring as was worried about controlling power. Nice to actually see it put into action. A great example turning what most would consider a defensive situation into an offensive opportunity.

    I agree with JowGaWolf that the guy made a big mistake holding on to that foot, rather than using it to immediately further his own ends. (see my post on "Guard vs Block." thread)

    If you change that roundhouse kick into a crescent and recover from the back kick in a crouch, you have an application from Kusanku kata's signature move.
     
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    When training for the Nationals and upper level tourneys we do a drill call "tap-tag". It is a sparring drill where one person calls "tap" when doing a move that should be seen as a setup or opening. One of many is to hold/grab a kick. It will really test the kickers balance, position bias, and vision/awareness.
    A common offensive setup is to get an opponent to grab/reach for a lead leg kick and having the spin kick quickly follow.
    As others have said, you cannot count on the lead kick to actually be held up, so the spin has to be done on it's own merit.
    It is illegal now to outright grab and hold in TKD tourneys but it was often masked and effectively done.
    In that "be ready for anything" category.
     
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    If I have not already said it, welcome to the forum John. It is great to read new perspective. I look forward to hearing more from you.

    A spinning hook kick is one of many to have in the tool bag. But I would say it is a more advanced kick that can be done well by fewer practitioners.
    I have to disagree with the wiki when it mentions "the aftermath" after throwing a spinning side kick. I assume if you know and are very comfortable with spinning hook kicks that you know there are several different variants of the spinning side kick, some returning to the original foot back some moving you forward and at various heights along the recipients body.
    To get really specific, the modern spinning hook kick isn't thrown the way the wiki tutorial describes and is definitely a kick more geared for tall, long legged people.
    I would argue it is a more useful kick selection as a disabling move.

    Just out of curiosity, how would you describe the path that the foot takes on a hook kick?
     
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