Ninjutsu contradictions

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  1. Steve

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    I think they all originated in the penis.
     
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  2. Ebrahim Mosaval

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    Actually the probability that it originated in a vagina is more likely as it is an ideal incubator.

    A little reading does wonders.
     
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    Aren't you clever? You just answered your own question. No need for a book report after all.
     
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    Ebrahim Mosaval White Belt

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    For your information I am a Bio-Medical engineer and this happens to be one of the subjects I have had to do extensive research on. The bit on reading was meant for you.
     
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    Well, I guess that answers my question at least! :)
     
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    I do not disagree with implementing the best practice standards. What I disagree with is the packaging of ancient practices as commodities for sale at the canning factories aka universities. Why should I seek the recognition and acknowledgement from an institution on a subject that is inherent in my culture.
     
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    My pleasure
     
  8. Steve

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    I heard somewhere that you're a biomedical engineer. Do you specialize in stds?

    From which canning factory did you get your engineering degree?
     
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    Folks,
    It might behoove one and all to remember that MartialTalk is the Friendly martial arts community...
     
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    I’m being friendly, and also really enjoying myself. But I’ll let the biomedical engineer dig the hole a little deeper on his own. :)
     
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    So you think it’s genetic knowledge? Or are you aware it requires training? If the latter, why not use universities to deliver that training?
     
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    Ironically ninjitsu requires you to understand the culture to understand the art.
     
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    How so?
     
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    There are concepts in ninjitsu that are purely Japanese.
     
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    Can you elaborate?
     
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    I’m betting this is drop bear making a little snark regarding past lectures from Chris Parker on the subject of people commenting on traditional Japanese arts without understanding the cultural context. Just a guess.
     
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    Traditional Japanese martial arts are, well, traditional and Japanese
    So naturally there is a heavy Japanese context

    But.....

    The underlying principles and essence are, I believe, global in nature and TBH I feel that too many people hide behind the cultural and historical context as that's unquantifiable. It can also give folk a point of differentiation when selling their wares to westerners which creates an unhealthy dynamic I think

    I know several experts in all things Japanese, who in the eyes of the Japanese just don't get it for example

    It's also clear that there is a big gap in being able to understand and articulate the nuances of traditional Japanese martial arts and being able to fight - which is inherently at odds with the tradition....
     
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    That was my guess - just wanted to be sure before I replied.
     
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    That really depends largely how we define "traditional". Most in my primary art would refer to it as a traditional Japanese art (though Koryu folks would definitely not), and there's only a smattering of Japanese context evident. Other Japanese-originated arts have more, while some have even less.

    Agree entirely. It's possible to learn (and teach) arts of Japanese origin (traditional or otherwise) without really understanding Japanese culture. And vice-versa.
     
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    Pretty much.
     

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