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<----- New testement guy here. Christian. Follower of Christ. Christ doesnt say to do that

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18
 

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<----- New testement guy here. Christian. Follower of Christ. Christ doesnt say to do that

So, your bible doesn't have an "old testament" section? It's never referenced, referred to, etc? You only read the "new part"?

Just checking, before I unload 50+ pages of debunking, disapproval and refutation here.
Pope Leo X, privy to the truth because of his high rank, made this curious declaration, "What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!"

"Lazarus,", or as he was originally known in the Egyptian tale, "El-Azar-us" raised by the Sun God (Son of God)....

The idea that God can't forgive Man unless Man first kills Gods Son.

But debunking isn't the purpose here.

Hmm...treating women as inferiors who should know their place. Paul had some thoughts on that.
1 Timothy 2:11–15 (American Standard Version):
11 Let a woman learn in quietness with all subjection.
12 But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve;
14 and Adam was not beguiled, but the woman being beguiled hath fallen into transgression:
15 but she shall be saved through her child-bearing, if they continue in faith and love and sanctification with sobriety.
And 1 Corinthians 14:34–35 (American Standard Version):
34 let the women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but let them be in subjection, as also saith the law.
35 And if they would learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home: for it is shameful for a woman to speak in the church.
Slavery. Lot of support for slavery there.
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ.” (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

“Be dressed for action and have your lamps lit; be like those who are waiting for their master to return from the wedding banquet, so that they may open the door for him as soon as he comes and knocks. Blessed are those slaves whom the master finds alert when he comes; truly I tell you, he will fasten his belt and have them sit down to eat, and he will come and serve them. If he comes during the middle of the night, or near dawn, and finds them so, blessed are those slaves. ‘But know this: if the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he* would not have let his house be broken into. You also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an unexpected hour.’” —Luke 12:35

Of course, you aren't complete unless you honor BOTH Testaments. See, Jesus didn't negate the Old.

What were "His" words again? Oh yes:
Jesus says in Matthew 5:17,“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfil. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”


Paul also says, “So the law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good.” (Romans 7:12).
Ah, but we need some murder, good old fashioned murder of the heathens.
Luke 19:26 "He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away."

Luke 19:27 "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."

Romans 1:29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
Romans 1:30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
Romans 1:31 they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
Romans 1:32 Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Now, if we accept the NT as the "Word of God", Jesus's existence as 'fact', and Christianity as 'legit'....seems to me it advocates much killing, murdering, robbing, and treating women as second class people.

Interesting.

I await you negating all this by saying "it doesnt say hijack an airplane so it doesn't count".
 

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Hey, everybody...

Let's remember that The Study allows some more heated discussions but that's not a blanket permission to ignore the rules. Name calling and personal insults or attacks still don't belong.

Keep the conversation friendly and oriented on facts, attacking the message and not the messenger.
 

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I await you negating all this by saying "it doesnt say hijack an airplane so it doesn't count".

But it does say in the Book of Armaments, Chapter 2, verses 9-21,

“ ...And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the LORD did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu... And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.

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Thats ok Bob, you dont have to worry about the threats out there

its like god, you dont have to believe in him, cuz he believes in you.

you aint gotta worry about the muslim nutbarks out there, but that doesnt change the fact that they are dreaming nightly of killing you

"They" - in this case being used by you - indicates all Muslims. This is flat out wrong. Just wrong. Admit it.

If you spent more time reding the ENTIRE Bible, and not selected texts, you would find little tidbits like Simeon and Reuben slaughtering all the men in an entire town after the rape of their sister. You would find G-d telling the Israelites to slaughter everybody, men, women and children when they enter the promised land. You would find that to this days Amalekites should be killed just for being Amalekites.

It's much easier to steal select passages (not even quoted directly) from a text one would refuse to read.

<----- New testement guy here. Christian. Follower of Christ. Christ doesnt say to do that

Wrong again - Christ said many think he was there to create new law but he (Christ) iterated very carefully that he was here to clarify and reaffirm God's covenant with man and to reinforce his laws for man; that the old law is not old, it is ALL God's law. Did you miss that part in your Evelyn Wood version of reading the Holy Scripture, New Testament Man?

more like 10 million, but for the 102nd time, there is no "all"

There isn't? But you said it is Muslims that are after us. By saying THOSE WORDS - you indicate it is all Muslims. YOU said it, man. Or are you going to skip around that one too? Or is that just my ignorant, lying liberal, feminazi eyes reading what you wrote wrongly? Perhaps we both have reading issues, eh?
 

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So....

Out of Curiosity....

1.7+ Billion Muslims out there.
Somewhere between 10,000 and 10,000,000 want to "kill me".

How can I tell them apart?

Really.

Because it's obvious I haven't a clue about how serious the "muslim threat" is, and others "know".

I'd like to know how to properly align my "Muslumdar" so I can easily pick these folks up in a crowd.

Better yet, better tell DHS and ICE and whoever it is issuing all those visa's to guys who try to buy explosives and hijack planes n stuff.

Because it seems some folks are so much better at telling who the bad guys are than the people who we're paying to do that.

Maybe we can pass a law requiring all Islamic Terrorists to register with the "Department of blowing **** up", add a 24 hour waiting period for bomb purchases, and make sure the TSA gets their knives on board.

Maybe, they can wear little uniforms with crescent moons on them?

Seriously.

How can I tell an evil fanatical Muslim from the vast majority of peaceful Muslims.
 

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Xue, it looks like the ones that aren't islamic are some form of socialist organization. Even the Irish Republican Army sided with the Nazis in ww2 and had, according to wikipedia a long connection to socialism and communism. So the Irish "troubles" were not solely a religous problem. Why do people have to always go back to the long ago past to site real, hard core religous persecution that is non-islamic in nature. The religion causing real problems, right now, is radical islam. You can talk about the inquisition, and other long ago christian violence, but everyone back then was really violent toward one another. The difference, today, is that most religions at least tolerate other religions, except for the radical islamists who do not get along with anyone, anywhere. Not way back when, but now. The bible also might have outdated parts, with calls for violence, but really, who is actually carrying out violence in the name of christianity on any scale that compares with radical muslim terrorists, in both number of killings and the number of countries where the killings occur. This is an almost global level of violence that effects just about everywhere but Japan and south america, and that is only because radical islam is too busy killing people elsewhere around the world to schedule anything in these other countries. They will get around to south america and Japan once Sharia is in place everywhere else.
 
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But you said it is Muslims that are after us. By saying THOSE WORDS - you indicate it is all Muslims.


saying it doesnt make it so Georgia, you cannot tell me what i "really" mean. I know as a married chick you are used to being able to tell a man what to do...but that doesnt work with men you are not sleeping with!! ;)
 

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saying it doesnt make it so Georgia, you cannot tell me what i "really" mean. I know as a married chick you are used to being able to tell a man what to do...but that doesnt work with men you are not sleeping with!! ;)

1. I didn't say it ... YOU said it. If you don't want to be held accountable for your words, then shut up already.

2. I know when you find yourself in a tight spot you like to hurl out the insults and cut people down personally. Frankly, I just can't imagine how you found your way back into the Study.

What exactly is it that you hope to accomplish by trying to berate me by using my gender and sexist stereotypical bias? Are you all out of ammo? Can't dispute the facts anymore? Figure if you get my Irish up that I'LL be the one called on the carpet? Is this you exposing the limits of your intelligence on the matter? Are you little more than a posterboy for the Dittohead generation?

Come on, man. You can do me better than that.
 

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Pointing out lefty violence, well, I like to point out things when they are too hard to miss. It doesn't make you curious, the connection of socialist theory with violent behavior? There also seems to be a predominance of radical muslim terrorist groups on that list.
 

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Folks, behave before the staff has to get all moderatory and lock the doors.
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This is an article that talks about our topic at hand. And a little something for Elder999 regarding my obsession.

http://pajamasmedia.com/eddriscoll/2011/02/24/useful-idiots-then-and-now/2/

Why would a left-leaning young man from one of the world&#8217;s most secular and liberal countries choose to become a pious Muslim?
The 34-year old Swedish music teacher from Stockholm, who asked that his last name not be published, attempted to explain his decision, describing it as the culmination of a long journey searching for faith and him solidifying his religious beliefs that he couldn&#8217;t always place.
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&#8220;I have never doubted my faith,&#8221; he told Babylon & Beyond while on a recent visit to Beirut. &#8220;It feels like I&#8217;ve had the same faith all the time but it feels so cleanly formulated in Islam.&#8221;
What&#8217;s the appeal? In part, Malcolm said, Islam fits in well with his left-wing views. &#8220;In that sense, Islam fits me really well,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I am completely against capitalism."


 

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What’s the appeal? In part, Malcolm said, Islam fits in well with his left-wing views. “In that sense, Islam fits me really well,” he said. “I am completely against capitalism."


He needs to study:

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]"O believers, consume not your goods between you in falsehood, instead let there be trading by mutual consent.." Koran 4:29[/FONT]

Did you know that there are entire classes of economic devices, like Islamic derivatives, mutual funds, and shariah rules on trade? These all exist so that trade and capitalism can exist in the Islamic world. Arabs love to dicker....I mean.....honestly.

Is the House of Saud "completely against capitalism?" Or Iran? Or any of the other Gulf states?

Was that young man "completely against capitalism" beacuse of his conversion to Islam, or because he was raised in a socialist paradise?
 

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What’s the appeal? In part, Malcolm said, Islam fits in well with his left-wing views. “In that sense, Islam fits me really well,” he said. “I am completely against capitalism."

"Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you." - Matthew 5:42

"So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well." - Matthew 6:31-33

"Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep" Matthew 10:8-10

"Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:21-24


Uh oh, looks like all Christians are a bunch of socialists, and thus violent Nazis.
 

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Did you know that there are entire classes of economic devices, like Islamic derivatives, mutual funds, and shariah rules on trade? These all exist so that trade and capitalism can exist in the Islamic world. Arabs love to dicker....I mean.....honestly.

Is the House of Saud "completely against capitalism?" Or Iran? Or any of the other Gulf states?

Was that young man "completely against capitalism" beacuse of his conversion to Islam, or because he was raised in a socialist paradise?

"Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you." - Matthew 5:42

"So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well." - Matthew 6:31-33

"Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. Do not take along any gold or silver or copper in your belts; take no bag for the journey, or extra tunic, or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep" Matthew 10:8-10

"Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:21-24


Uh oh, looks like all Christians are a bunch of socialists, and thus violent Nazis.

Are you guys poking fun of billi?
 

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Quote the bible, please, just don't miss the most important part of each of your quotes:

"...freely give."

Nothing about being coerced by the government or having the government take it from you. Jesus, in each of your quotes is telling you to do it yourself. He doesn't say, "Go to your neighbor and take what he has and give it to the poor, for that is the way to get to heaven." He admonsishes the individual to do it on their own, of their own free will.

That is the farthest thing from socialism my friends.
 
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