Is the Bible 100% truth?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Spirituality in the Arts' started by shesulsa, May 23, 2006.

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Is the Bible True and Correct in your opinion?

  1. Yes, I believe all of the Bible is true and correct, even in symbolism

  2. No, the Bible contains skewed opinions and is filled with fabrications

  3. Not sure

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  1. elder999

    elder999 El Oso de Dios!

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    Which brings us back to the 68 degree rule, again, as I posted here, on page 10 of this very thread, five years ago. :lol:


     
  2. seasoned

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    Amen.
     
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    It is one thing to believe in things not seen.
    It is quite another to believe in something one can see, and which are clearly different from what one believes. Like the age of the universe, whether moses had horns or not, etc.

    To tie this back to the 68 degree rule: I agree that we can argue about what something means.
    However, there are things in the bible which -when taken literally- go against things we know to be true.
    Therefore you cannot take the bible as literal truth without also denying the things we know to be true. That is like closing your eyes and ears and pretending those uncomfortable realities do not exist.

    There is truth and beaty in the bible, but not in the literal sense.
    Just like there is in the Koran, the Torah, etc.
     
  4. seasoned

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    I think I will focus on the "68 degree rule", I like that.
     
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    Hot and cold are subjective concepts used by our brains. The fact that it's about 68 degrees F, though, is NOT debatable.
     
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    Very correct, but discernment is important. Is the 68 degrees coming from the thermostat or a fire burning in the corner. Truth is they are both lets say "68 degrees, but, discernment points us to a certain pertinent action.
     
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    Side note, horns are not pertinent to discernment.[​IMG]
     
  8. elder999

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    Facts are objective and, generally, indisputable.

    Truth is subjective, and often disputable.

    Facts are true, but truths aren't necessarily facts.
     
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    This is kind of a 'sensitive' topic isn't?
     
  11. elder999

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    So?

    Believe what you want to, or don't believe-other people's opinions should have no more effect on this than facts have ever been shown to.

    Merry Christmas!

    Numbers 24:17
    I see him, but not now; I behold him, but now near. A star will come out of Jacob; a scepter will rise out of Israel.

    Genesis 3:15
    And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.

    Luke 1:35
    And the angel answered her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy-- the Son of God".


    Isaiah 7:14
    Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

    Isaiah 9:6
    For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

    Micah 5:2
    But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times.

    Matthew 2:2-3
    The Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, "Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him." When King Herod heard this he was disturbed, and all Jerusalem with him.

    Luke 2:13-14
    And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying, (14) "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased!" "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased!"
     
  12. Makalakumu

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    I believe in the 69 rule. Apparently, the temperature increases exponentially in the one degree interval from 68.
     
  13. Xue Sheng

    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

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    :hmm: this post appears to have been resurrected….. ironic isn’t it
     
  14. Indie12

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    True! I just was questioning if it would offend some of the more fundamental extreme christians as to rather or not the bible was real?
     
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    2012 is coming up! Well need all the "truth" we can get!! :p
     
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    Xue Sheng All weight is underside

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    Nope...we just need to find a Mayan to make a new calender

    and now it appears we have roopled back the stone on this post :rolleyes:
     
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    We just did a Mayan Calendar last night & seem to be ok. One calendar ended & a new one started.

    BTW... There are plenty of Mayan descended peeps on the Yucatan & Southward. Trick is... Do they know the base20 math like the guys who did the calendar.

    Sent from my Thunderbolt on Tapatalk. Excuse the auto-correct spelling errors.
     
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    IMHO there is always an element of discernment where the Bible is concerned.
    At face value it could tend to contradict itself in many places. I feel it is one of those books that needs to be read many times over to begin to reach an understanding of how it pertains to the readers individual life. Just my thoughts................
     
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    I have a more pertinent question... "it's either religion or a relationship"
    and by religion (which I hold as a dirty word) is "Man's attempts to please or reach God"

    I believe in the inerrant verbal-plenary inspiration of scripture
    (in everyday language we would say "every word is authoritative")
    that it is composed of 66 books written by over 40 authors over
    thousands of years and it is a tool by which God has chosen to
    communicate with mankind for thousands of years.

    Disclaimer: all highlights, underlines, Italics, and (brackets)
    are my own and are not in the original text.

    2 Timothy 3:16-17 NIV

    "All Scripture is God-breathed (also translated inspired) and is useful for
    teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness
    so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work"

    2 Peter 1:20-21 NIV
    "Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about
    by the prophet’s own interpretation of things
    . For prophecy
    never had its origin in the human will
    , but prophets, though human,
    spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit."

    Romans 15:4 NIV (Written by Saul/Paul of Tarsus a learned man)
    "For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us,
    so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the
    encouragement they provide we might have hope"

    Matthew 5:18 NIV (Jesus as recorded by his disciples)
    "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter,
    not the least stroke of a pen
    , will by any means disappear from the Law
    until everything is accomplished"

    for more information here are some great websites:

    www.blueletterbible.com


    www.gotquestions.org

    www.hopeandreason.org


    Feel free to message me or post with any questions...it is my "job" after all!

    Chris
     
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    So we're still supposed to be stoning women who aren't virgins and men who work on the Sabbath?123
     

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