How would a high level Tai Chi martial artist do against a high level MMA?

[Shai Hulud]

So many factors to consider, including the preferences of the two high-level practitioners in question. It's a lot like asking who's stronger with regard to a professional strongman and an Olympic powerlifter.

 

[Buka]

In walks an MMA guy who retired in 97 and went back to the Tai Chi he did as a child, and says, "Who's the Master?

Obviously it would be Sho'nuff.

 

[Flying Crane]

Lol. I didn't even ask which version, because when you said "keep on the borderlands," I know you're old school. I got that module in my very first, basic d&d set when I was in the 6th grade, around 1981.

You and I had the same childhood. In 81 I believe I would have been in fifth grade.

 

[clfsean]

You and I had the same childhood. In 81 I believe I would have been in fifth grade.

1981 ... 7th Grade, new city/school & started TKD that November.

 

[Tez3]

1981, married with five year old son and we were packing up to leave RAF Germany to new posting in Blighty.

 

[Xue Sheng]

hmm...1981....I was an Auto mechanic training TKD

 

[mograph]

Well, since this thread has gone off the rails, not having been that stable to begin with ... Xue, have you read Shop Class as Soul Craft? Good book.

“Philosopher and motorcycle repair-shop owner Crawford extols the value of making and fixing things in this masterful paean to what he calls “manual competence,” the ability to work with one’s hands. …With wit and humor, the author deftly mixes the details of his own experience as a tradesman and then proprietor of a motorcycle repair shop with more philosophical considerations.”—Publishers Weekly (starred review)

Shop Class as Soulcraft Matthew B. Crawford

 

[Xue Sheng]

Well, since this thread has gone off the rails, not having been that stable to begin with ... Xue, have you read Shop Class as Soul Craft? Good book.

“Philosopher and motorcycle repair-shop owner Crawford extols the value of making and fixing things in this masterful paean to what he calls “manual competence,” the ability to work with one’s hands. …With wit and humor, the author deftly mixes the details of his own experience as a tradesman and then proprietor of a motorcycle repair shop with more philosophical considerations.”—Publishers Weekly (starred review)

Shop Class as Soulcraft Matthew B. Crawford

No, I'm in IT now and we don't have souls

I have not read that, but I am about to make an Amazon order and that has been added, thanks.

Now to get this thread back on track..... since there was no MMA, per say, in 1981 but there were Taiji masters would the length of time the art existed come into play as to who would win...AND....do both of the combatants have souls....or are one or both of them soulless freaks of nature...... all of this could make a difference

see what I did there

 

[mograph]

XueSheng's thread-fu is indeed strong.

I must seek revenge.

 

[Flying Crane]

No, I'm in IT now and we don't have souls

I have not read that, but I am about to make an Amazon order and that has been added, thanks.

Now to get this thread back on track..... since there was no MMA, per say, in 1981 but there were Taiji masters would the length of time the art existed come into play as to who would win...AND....do both of the combatants have souls....or are one or both of them soulless freaks of nature...... all of this could make a difference

see what I did there

It depends. What are their alignments? Good? Evil? Neutral?
Chaotic or lawful?

If they are lawfully evil, they may have a soul tho it will be rotten. If chaotic evil then they may not have one at all since I doubt they would recognize a higher power.

If they are good or neutral, I'm afraid the answer is the same.

 

[Xue Sheng]

It depends. What are their alignments? Good? Evil? Neutral?
Chaotic or lawful?

If they are lawfully evil, they may have a soul tho it will be rotten. If chaotic evil then they may not have one at all since I doubt they would recognize a higher power.

If they are good or neutral, I'm afraid the answer is the same.

But what if the MMA person is basically good with neutral leanings towards evil AND he has just eaten a Peanut butter and jelly sandwich while the Taiji master is mostly evil with neutral leanings towards goodness but he prefers Jasmine Green tea...and I understand the flipping these by referring to the MMA person as mostly evil with neutral leanings towards goodness and the Taiji master as basically good with neutral leanings towards evil would not only change the outcomes but possibly threaten the very fabric of the universe.... and would not even take their food and or drink preferences into account at that point because a suspect that would cause a complete breakdown of the system and we may all disappear in a poof of logic and then we would never find the answer of who would win....

 

[Tez3]

Peanut butter and jelly...ugh ( that's peanut butter and jam to us, jelly is a dessert), sandwiches should be proper Wensleydale cheese and home made chutney, that's what heroes eat!

 

[mograph]

Cracking good thread, Gromit!

 

[Flying Crane]

Well, whoever had the Jolt Cola would take it all, I'm afraid. It's as simple as that.

 

[mograph]

American or Canadian Jolt?

 

[Steve]

Jolt cola is still around?????

 

[Xue Sheng]

Well, whoever had the Jolt Cola would take it all, I'm afraid. It's as simple as that.

But not if the other had just had a healthy lunch of cotton candy and pixie sticks with a Latte chaser

 

[Xue Sheng]

Jolt cola is still around?????

Jolt Cola Long Necks

And I am as surprised as you are

 

[blindsage]

Lord you people are old. I was six in '81 and I turned 40 this year. Don't you all have some kids on your lawn to yell at? Hey, do any of you know the form that uses this?

 

[Hyoho]

In order to play this game, I need more information on the Tai Chi man and on the MMAist. Can you provide a detailed profile of each using the template provided below? Try to provide as much detail as possible. The more detail you include, the more accurate I can be with my prediction. Thanks!

Character Profile Worksheet

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Lol, don't forget his ability to fight. Because that's what it about, not what art he does.