I don't think there's anything new to be said now that we haven't already had a thread on over the years.
How would a high level Tai Chi martial artist do against a high level MMA?
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I don't think there's anything new to be said now that we haven't already had a thread on over the years.
mograph
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The OP asked about a "high level" Tai Chi practitioner, so talking about training norms may not be appropriate.
Besides, reading the OP, and other "white belt" posts here, leads me to believe this is another "let's go over to a TMA forum and tell the TMA guys how weak their style is" thread. Not polite, guys.
Besides, reading the OP, and other "white belt" posts here, leads me to believe this is another "let's go over to a TMA forum and tell the TMA guys how weak their style is" thread. Not polite, guys.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
I don't know about you guys, but if the Tai Chi guy is a Wookie, my money's on the Tai Chi guy.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
What if he is a Klingon.. Warf did Klingon Tai Chi you know
paitingman
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I think norms are still relevant to define exactly what high level is.
High level mma is pretty clear, but there are many facets of tai chi and tma that can be used to describe high level I think. On what grounds is it high level? High level form? High level energy control? High level fighting? Tma are pretty vast and aren't as cut and dry on the surface level as western styles, so I think training, focus, and norms are useful to qualify what high level might be for some people.
High level mma is pretty clear, but there are many facets of tai chi and tma that can be used to describe high level I think. On what grounds is it high level? High level form? High level energy control? High level fighting? Tma are pretty vast and aren't as cut and dry on the surface level as western styles, so I think training, focus, and norms are useful to qualify what high level might be for some people.
IMO, anything that you can apply in combat is high level, otherwise it's low level. If you can use your "single leg" to take down your opponent 7 times in a role, your "single leg" is "high level" by definition.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
I'd say high level is anything above the waist. Low level is anything below the knee. So, the real question is, who would be more disadvantaged by giving up low level techniques. I think the MMA guy. I've never seen a Tai Chi technique that involved a low single leg takedown.
But, if there were, would it be called something like 'repulsing the gopher?'
But, if there were, would it be called something like 'repulsing the gopher?'
Danny T
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Snake Creeps.I'd say high level is anything above the waist. Low level is anything below the knee. So, the real question is, who would be more disadvantaged by giving up low level techniques. I think the MMA guy. I've never seen a Tai Chi technique that involved a low single leg takedown.
But, if there were, would it be called something like 'repulsing the gopher?'
Obviously that wasn't real MMA. MMA guys are all meatheads, brutes, and jerks. That guy didn't even have any visible tattoos no tribal armband showing or anything.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
I'd say high level is anything above the waist. Low level is anything below the knee. So, the real question is, who would be more disadvantaged by giving up low level techniques. I think the MMA guy. I've never seen a Tai Chi technique that involved a low single leg takedown.
But, if there were, would it be called something like 'repulsing the gopher?'
OBVIOULSY you have never heard of Flying Five Finger One Armed Eight Pole Wudang Exploding Death Touch Taijiquan
Steve
Mostly Harmless
Heard of it, but I get your point. Although I am well trained in the Seven Pole and Nine Pole variations of the style, in all of my travels, I could never find a master of the Eight Pole. I understand that there is only one, true heir to the secret of the Eighth Pole.
Interesting story. There used to be a lot more people who were well trained in the Eight Pole Wudang Exploding Death Touch. But somewhere along the way, it was understood to be the Ate Pole, and so they did. It was grizzly. Like a scene out of the The Road. Only one person survived... known for his insatiable appetite and willingness to eat his training partners. I'm not sure he gained any martial skill, but I sure wouldn't mess with him.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
ahhh yes... Ate Pole Wudang Exploding Death Touch Cannibalismfu.... but that is no longer considered Taijiquan...only the true Eight Pole is Taijiquan...usually you need to learn how to shoot Qi balls which you learn form DVDs
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
Before we go further, we need to know what they rolled in the following traits:
Strength
Charisma
Wisdom
Intelligence
Dexterity
And how many experience points they have earned so far, on their various adventures. I mean, if they just rolled up these characters yesterday and the only module they've been thru so far is the Keep on the Boarderlands, well they just haven't been around the block enough yet. Hardly high level. We need to know these things in order to pass judgment on how this ought to play out.
And who would be the DM on this exercise?????
Strength
Charisma
Wisdom
Intelligence
Dexterity
And how many experience points they have earned so far, on their various adventures. I mean, if they just rolled up these characters yesterday and the only module they've been thru so far is the Keep on the Boarderlands, well they just haven't been around the block enough yet. Hardly high level. We need to know these things in order to pass judgment on how this ought to play out.
And who would be the DM on this exercise?????
Steve
Mostly Harmless
You forgot constitution.
Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
Damn, I knew there was something missing. It's been a long, long time.You forgot constitution.
But I stand by my observations.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
You are both forgetting the importance of shoe size and whether or not they like right or left twix
Steve
Mostly Harmless
Lol. I didn't even ask which version, because when you said "keep on the borderlands," I know you're old school. I got that module in my very first, basic d&d set when I was in the 6th grade, around 1981.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
Wait a minute. Is that code?
