For All The Taekwondo Bashers The Real Truth On Taekwondo From My View

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  1. Jaeimseu

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    If you watch an actual match, you’ll see that the flashy techniques aren’t used often despite more points being awarded.

    Shockingly, techniques specifically designed for tkd competition aren’t always the most practical for other sports.


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    They still take up a lot of the training time. I did tornados as much if not more than the basic kicks when I did KKW. And we trained for the sport of WT.
     
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    They don't learn boxing in muay thai. They learn muay thai. That involves striking with your hands, but is a completely different system than boxing. Hence why I'm saying you can learn to use your hands without learning boxing.
     
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    Back in the 70, if your school couldn't teach flashy kick, your school won't have any students. Believe or not, I went to watch a new school opening. During the 1st day, the instructor taught the inside crescent kick, outside crescent kick combo.

    I assume if you can do inside crescent kick, outside kick combo, you can also do roundhouse kick (MT way), spin hook kick combo.

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    That’s not the focus in my tkd school. And that wasn’t the focus at the tkd school in Seoul where I was on staff for a decade.


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    "The punch techniques in muay Thai were originally quite limited, being crosses and a long (or lazy) circular strike made with a straight (but not locked) arm and landing with the heel of the palm. Cross-fertilization with Western boxing and Western martial arts mean the full range of western boxing punches are now used: lead jab, straight/cross, hook, uppercut, shovel and corkscrew punches and overhands as well as hammer fists and back fists."
     
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    You're not going to argue that the new rules are better, are you? Face kicking doesn't score anymore at the highest levels, making it a battle of who can axe kick the other one more on the helmet.
     
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    There are compilations of spinning kicks in UFC.
     
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    I love the unique ways people find to bash arts. /s
     
  10. Jaeimseu

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    Nope. I hate the way it looks now, but that doesn’t mean I see lots of fancy techniques.


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    How many tornado or double roundhouse or axe kick knockouts?

    Imagine if a grappling coach in MMA didn't take anything from Jiujitsu specifically... What would we say about the practicality of Jiujitsu then?
     
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    My criticism was about training and practicality... How much would you estimate you did tornados, axe kicks, and scissor kicks in your day? And how much do you do them now? They are superflous techniques to anyone but TKD competitors. I didn't even do them in my ITF school! Now that's saying something!
     
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    Here’s one (note also has his hands down taekwondo style)



    here’s another one (with an axe kick also included )

    https://youtu.be/aJKzZAqU8f

    and one more for good luck



    Those 3 all found in about 1 minute of scrolling through YouTube
     
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    I literally typed in tornado kick knockouts MMA and found 3 in about a minute lol
     
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    3 in thousands of MMA bouts..?. :eek: Well that settles it.. lol
     
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    Video is even labelled unusual strike KOs:rolleyes:
     
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    3 that I found in 1 minute and that’s 3 more than you claimed there was and here’s a few more spinning kicks for you (taekwondo style kicks)
     
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    Here’s another. Not sure if it’s exclusively taekwondo kick but my friend who does taekwondo uses this kick in competition and here it is knocking out a ufc veteran

     
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    Yeah that's not a formal Taekwondo kick. I would say that's more capoera than TKD, if anything.
     
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    I never claimed there wasn't any. ..123
     

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