Difference between Shinobi and Ninja?

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  1. Tengu

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    I know the word Shinobi means Ninja but I'm curious if there is any difference between the two terms?
     
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    According to Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja

     
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    Thanks, that was helpful.
     
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    A Shinobi-A Mono is a Shinobi trained warrior. In the feudal area. He is trained to endure and be of the stealthiest movements. When One of this soldiers is sent to assasinate he is "the one nominated to kill a target" which means "ninja". It is the name of a soldier nominated for an assassination mission within the Shinobi A- mono
     
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    Pretty sure shinobi is used to refer to a male ninja.
     
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    Both of you, just… no. The answer is, simply, as Tgace said 3 and a half years ago, that it's two different pronunciations for the same term… there is no difference, other than preference depending on the period and person.

    No. For one thing, that doesn't even make sense. For another, the term is "shinobi no mono", not "shinobi a mono"… you're also going to have to be far more particular about what you mean by "feudal era"… Muromachi Jidai? Sengoku Jidai? Ashikaga Jidai? Tokugawa Jidai?

    Huh?

    No, it absolutely does not mean anything of the kind. There is nothing about killing, a target, or anything else in the term.

    There is no record or indication of any shinobi/ninja being linked to any assassination at all, other than one or two folktales or similarly fanciful (and historically baseless) stories.

    No. While there is a term that is often used to apply to female ninja (kunoichi), there is no specific "male" designation… so, no.

    This isn't even the difference between saying someone is a Marine, and saying they're a soldier… it's the difference between saying someone is a Marine, and saying they were in the Marines.
     
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    I find this interesting, Chris, can you suggest any reading up about female ninjas? cheers!
     
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    Kunoichi, a term known in America to any fans of the ninja warrior contests. Kunoichi was what they called the all female versions of the competitions. I love those shows.
     
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    None of these are the correct definition. To be shinobi is something you can not find on the internet . it exist only in your soul. It makes me extremely proud and disgusted at the same time to see people that can't possibly understand the definition to comment on the subject. Its a literal hypocrisy seeing as no shinobi would ever admit or aknowledge this fact. This shows that people have zero comprehension or the term. Hence " to conceal oneself" . people are not very bright!!!
     
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    You’ve all got it wrong. And seriously wrong...

    Shinobi - Video game originally released as an arcade game in 1987

    Ninja - The Japanese guys in black masks who throw a small metal ball on the ground and disappear in the ensuing smoke.
     
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    Wait a minute ... I thought a Ninja was a motorcycle? If it isn't, then I need to rethink my friend's stories about what fun it was riding a ninja! :eek:
     
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    Sounds pretty suspect to me. If they rode a katana, I’d have interesting questions too. :)
     
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    What if they rode a hurricane?
     
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    Would never happen in Japan. It would be a typhoon.
     
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    We don't know where PGsmith's friend rode the Ninja. Could have happened anywhere.

    While riding a typhoon might be a thing specific to the waters of the Pacific.


    we know the ninja fears the hurricane. Even in Japan.
     
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