May still be taught by the National Chinese Kenpo Karate Association (NCKKA), or at least is was a few years ago. That was an Ed Parker / Steven LaBounty / Gary Swan lineage.
-Michael
UKS-Texas
-Michael
UKS-Texas
In my system we have short 4, 5 and 6 as requirements as well as the long forms of each. I usually compete with the same forms as Mr. Billings uses. Tiger, 4 or 6. Some times I will do Bookset or fingerset to long 2. It also depends on who the judges are and what styles they practice.
so to ask a Question. This is the first time that I have heard the term "Book Set". Which set is that?
As far as doing forms for competition. My highest form currently is Long 4. I have won first with Long 3 and Short 4, and taken 4th with long 2, I lost to a fellow student, with whom I had tied with in 3rd place.
I have only been to 5 tourneys in my 6 years. Unfortunately it seems I only get to go to one tourney a year, due to weekend work.
My 2 favorite forms to date are Leopard and Short 4. I will choose between these two for my next tournement. Unless I have 5 by then.
Michael
As far as doing forms for competition. My highest form currently is Long 4. I have won first with Long 3 and Short 4, and taken 4th with long 2, I lost to a fellow student, with whom I had tied with in 3rd place.
I have only been to 5 tourneys in my 6 years. Unfortunately it seems I only get to go to one tourney a year, due to weekend work.
My 2 favorite forms to date are Leopard and Short 4. I will choose between these two for my next tournement. Unless I have 5 by then.
Michael
Poison Hand = Finger Set #1 (with some rotation to a forward for eye strikes)
Book Set = Leopard Set (More of an Okinawan style form brought into the system in the 60's.)
Realize, I am American Kenpo now. Although I do retain some of the older sets, they are not necessary in my school.
Oos,
-Michael
Book Set = Leopard Set (More of an Okinawan style form brought into the system in the 60's.)
Realize, I am American Kenpo now. Although I do retain some of the older sets, they are not necessary in my school.
Oos,
-Michael
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RCastillo
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- Thread Starter
- #26
No one respects traditional forrms anymore, unless you go to stirctly like an ITF tourny!
It's all about flash, and entertainment.:soapbox:
thesensei
Green Belt
I still use and teach the Bookset. I don't think i would use it for competition, but i think it's great for developing strong stances, and mobility from strong stances.
jb
I forgot that I used to use Book Set in competition along with Long #4, prior to learning Tiger & Crane. Ah, for the good old days again.
-Michael
-Michael
ikenpo
Black Belt
Mr. B,
Thanks for sharing. It's always good to hear from the old school that did it....
Respectfully Yours, jbugg
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brianhunter
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- #30
Mr Billings,
How hard would it be to convince you to put book set, tiger crane, or poison hands up on your web site???? I love your site I have used it for reference a lot! I would love to learn some "old school" forms
Brian Hunter
I just came back form a local tournament around my area. There was one other kenpo person other than myself. He decided to participate I was there only to judge and see people that I have not seen for quite a while. Anyway he used and explosion short 3 when he was done everyone clapped and cheered. One of the judges gave him a 9.0 the rest were all sevens. Just goes to show you the local TKD guys don't really know what their looking at. He by far well deserved the first place trophy but instead didn't place at all.
ikenpo
Black Belt
Originally posted by jfarnsworth
I just came back form a local tournament around my area. There was one other kenpo person other than myself. He decided to participate I was there only to judge and see people that I have not seen for quite a while. Anyway he used and explosion short 3 when he was done everyone clapped and cheered. One of the judges gave him a 9.0 the rest were all sevens. Just goes to show you the local TKD guys don't really know what their looking at. He by far well deserved the first place trophy but instead didn't place at all.
Judging forms is so subjective you can't take it too personally. Hopefully he made up for it in sparring...lol :karate:
jb:asian:
Klondike93
Master Black Belt
Not surprised though. They're supposed to judge based on balance, focus, power stuff like that, but they usually base it on flash, high kicking etc.. I personally don't like to judge forms, it's hard to do it and get it right, but to go from a 9 to 7's that's just flat biased.
:asian:
you could tell we were like the outsiders or something. These birds had their own groups and such. It was a smaller size tournament all of them were TKD related expect for the 2 of us. Personally I think he should have compted with long 4 rather than short 3 but he did an excellent job at 3.
Hollywood1340
2nd Black Belt
Fellow Artists,
As a Teakata doing traditional forms at an open tourney, I've noticed we dont do so well. Not enough stomping and neck snapping I guess :rofl:
As a Teakata doing traditional forms at an open tourney, I've noticed we dont do so well. Not enough stomping and neck snapping I guess :rofl:
What is a Teakata???
Lamont
Lamont
I was wondering the same thing myself. Glad someone asked.
Hollywood1340
2nd Black Belt
We're...um...tea...tea...um...Teakettles that practice Martial Arts. It's hard to crush head with a spout
I of course meant Taekata, one who kicks high for no apparent reason other then to score these things called 'points'. Does nothing really to help us with either the ladies (Gentleman) or on the street, as I'm told 'points' don't count.
I of course meant Taekata, one who kicks high for no apparent reason other then to score these things called 'points'. Does nothing really to help us with either the ladies (Gentleman) or on the street, as I'm told 'points' don't count.
ikenpo
Black Belt
Trying to see if I can repost the one that got away...
jb:asian:
