Are the sweeps used in free sparring in any kata?

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  1. Acronym

    Acronym Master of Arts

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    Why would he need that if Judo has striking?
     
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    He explained pretty thouroughly exactly why he thought he needed it.

    Basically, though, he said he did it to improve his grip.


    Newsflash: I can drive to Albuquerque, and go to a judo dojo that teaches striking.

    Or I can just walk out back to my barn.

    I'm done here.
     
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    Newsflash. Judo lists specific kata for their strikes, both hand and feet, as part of their official curriculum. You were presented with video of Judo students training their strikes. Not sure what further evidence you need.
     
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    Just musing, but it is an odd way to think. That something does not exist or is not substantial unless if is verifiable via YouTube and it must be perceivable to lay people that don't train in the method.

    Not starting a fight with anyone...
     
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    They aren't qualified to teach striking unless they've crosstrained.
     
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    I suggest you research the history of Judo and the aim of its founder
     
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    Conversely, it's pretty ridiculous to constantly reject documented evidence, whether from youtube, or books.
     
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    I haven't rejected anything. Judo has striking in a few katas, which is largely irrelevant since it's now a grappling sport. If you open up judo schools that don't focus on the Olympics, you won't have a clients. It makes no sense. You also don't have anyone qualified to teach it, which is why Ronda Roussey looked like a lay person striking against someone who knew how to strike.
     
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    Heh. I have trained in judo. And aikido. And karate. I know a bit about the histories of all three along with the post WWII transformation of Japan.

    As I said, it's odd that laypeople think YouTube is the gold standard for determining reality.
     
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    I can one-up you sir. It is pretty ridiculous to try to engage in discussion with this fellow. :)
     
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    I agree.....consequently....

     
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    When did base anything off of Youtube? Striking is prohibited in sparring. What you have left is air guitar
     
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    I had a friend with a son that was like that. The son was on the autistic spectrum though high functioning. But he had a hard time getting along with others because his brain just didn't process the same way people not on the spectrum do.

    Not saying that is what is happening here. But OP seems determined that only what he can discern himself from reading and watching media on the internet is valuable or true. And he becomes hostile easily. It seems like a difficult way to experience the world.
     
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    Yes, I hadn’t considered that. Good point.
     
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    Takes one to know one
     
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    Why are you still here despite labelling me a turd? I reported it

    Is this no longer the friendly martial arts forum?
     
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    nice to see how corrupt it is even at martial talk. I've been banned for far lesser things.
     
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    Ok, buh-bye!
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    I have no idea what your guys are arguing about.

    - Does Karate have sweep?
    - Does Judo have punch?
    - Does boxing have kick?
    - Does TKD have throw?
    - Does BJJ have knife fight?
    - ...

    Who cares? If you cross train, this will never be an issue.
     
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