HEY! I knew that!
I learned it on M*A*S*H when Klinger was faking fainting spells to try and get out of the army...:lfao: That Klinger..he funny...he would try anything.
An arena full of no touch knockouts! Let the bodies hit the FLOOR!
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HEY! I knew that!
I learned it on M*A*S*H when Klinger was faking fainting spells to try and get out of the army...:lfao: That Klinger..he funny...he would try anything.
I'll see if I can cover some of the highlights...
I could easily make a video of many things... I could compile a video of any given fighter being hit and beat up in the ring. Toss in some appropriate music, and you can make Mike Tyson in his prime look pathetic. Even he got hit... You could do this with anyone/anything if you want...
If you consider what he is doing sans the music/video as disturbing, thats your right, but the video is made to give you that impression. That being said, I can't speak that much about Hinn. I've not been to any of his meetings or watched him on TV. Unless I can see something that is directly anti-Bible, I'm not going to condemn him. That's God's department, not mine. Bottom line... are people coming to God? Are people really being healed? His works will be judged, but not by me. As a Christian, thats not my duty.
I could easily make a video of many things... I could compile a video of any given fighter being hit and beat up in the ring. Toss in some appropriate music, and you can make Mike Tyson in his prime look pathetic. Even he got hit... You could do this with anyone/anything if you want...
If you consider what he is doing sans the music/video as disturbing, thats your right, but the video is made to give you that impression. That being said, I can't speak that much about Hinn. I've not been to any of his meetings or watched him on TV. Unless I can see something that is directly anti-Bible, I'm not going to condemn him. That's God's department, not mine. Bottom line... are people coming to God? Are people really being healed? His works will be judged, but not by me. As a Christian, thats not my duty.
This, in my humble opinion, is what a Christian is about. However, these guys don't get on the news, they don't get on TV or Youtube. They are not as "entertaining" for those that want to speak bad about the church. On to the preachers that steal money, do things you don't like, etc.. All the time, for every bad guy, there are many who simply go about their lives serving God, and you will likely never hear about them. Most of them won't even be behind a pulpit.Kembudo-Kai Kempoka said:
I'm not interested in convincing you of anything. I honestly don't even expect you to even remotely understand some things. Writing more words won't convince you, if you are lacking one thing:Andrew Green said:
1 Cor 2:11-14 said:
A investigation into him, and his church:
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If there is a God, and he wants to heal people, he could do it without a high spending materialistic preacher in a sold out arena collecting hundreds of thousands in donations per night.
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If there is a God, and he wants to heal people, he could do it without a high spending materialistic preacher in a sold out arena collecting hundreds of thousands in donations per night.
Kembudo-Kai Kempoka
Senior Master
Unfortunately, I also worked with the TBN crowd for a spell during my wide-eyed youth. There is a large cadre of televangalists who need some serious enemas.
There was a guy named Kennith Hagan, and another fellow named Kenneth Copeland, who at the time were almost singly responsible for creating a zeitgeist in the fundamentalist church that would cause the body of the church to support their claims of divine rights to cash. It was nick-named "name it and claim it", and reversed the servant role with the divine. Scripture was perversed to say, "If you can think of a thing you want, claim it in the name of Christ, and the universe is compelled to owe it to you. This means you all have the right, through faith, to all the wealth and riches you have the faith to manifest in Jesus' name."
If you couldn't manifest ridiculous personal wealth, you simply had to go to work on your relationship with god, so you could have stronger faith. If you had great wealth, it was simply a sign of good faith. So...who was anyone to question the fortunes/faith of men who had dedicated their lives to being Gods evangelists?
It was a cozy way of silencing critics within the church, and providing a cause to say "you just don't know, because you aren't one of us" to people outside the church.
After turning the community upside down and creating divisiveness within several large congregations, some people started asking, "well..wait a minute...who's serving who?" And, "Isn't this merely a form of ritualized witchcraft, with our new magic words being, "in Jesus' name"?
Some councils of elders ejected their pastors for not embracing the new wealth-oriented faith, while others ejected their pastors for not returning to grass roots...for not rejecting the new christian witchcraft, enslaving the spirit of god to do the will of the professing believer.
The NBC clip shows a gal insisting it's OK for pastors to live high on the hog...convenient, since she is one. I haven't sat in a church with these sillies for over 20 years, and can tell I ain't missing anything. The people who beheaded Marie Antoinette for her largesse had the right idea; too bad they aren't here to get the modern day Anoinettes. What we need now is a good inquisition...or religious enema.
Religion and spirituality are not the same thing. How large was the estate that the Nazarene owned? Didn't Siddhartha Gautama live out his last days with a beggars bowl? How massive was the personal wealth of Ghandi? And why does Hinn wear mandarin collars?
End of annoyed rant,
Dave
There was a guy named Kennith Hagan, and another fellow named Kenneth Copeland, who at the time were almost singly responsible for creating a zeitgeist in the fundamentalist church that would cause the body of the church to support their claims of divine rights to cash. It was nick-named "name it and claim it", and reversed the servant role with the divine. Scripture was perversed to say, "If you can think of a thing you want, claim it in the name of Christ, and the universe is compelled to owe it to you. This means you all have the right, through faith, to all the wealth and riches you have the faith to manifest in Jesus' name."
If you couldn't manifest ridiculous personal wealth, you simply had to go to work on your relationship with god, so you could have stronger faith. If you had great wealth, it was simply a sign of good faith. So...who was anyone to question the fortunes/faith of men who had dedicated their lives to being Gods evangelists?
It was a cozy way of silencing critics within the church, and providing a cause to say "you just don't know, because you aren't one of us" to people outside the church.
After turning the community upside down and creating divisiveness within several large congregations, some people started asking, "well..wait a minute...who's serving who?" And, "Isn't this merely a form of ritualized witchcraft, with our new magic words being, "in Jesus' name"?
Some councils of elders ejected their pastors for not embracing the new wealth-oriented faith, while others ejected their pastors for not returning to grass roots...for not rejecting the new christian witchcraft, enslaving the spirit of god to do the will of the professing believer.
The NBC clip shows a gal insisting it's OK for pastors to live high on the hog...convenient, since she is one. I haven't sat in a church with these sillies for over 20 years, and can tell I ain't missing anything. The people who beheaded Marie Antoinette for her largesse had the right idea; too bad they aren't here to get the modern day Anoinettes. What we need now is a good inquisition...or religious enema.
Religion and spirituality are not the same thing. How large was the estate that the Nazarene owned? Didn't Siddhartha Gautama live out his last days with a beggars bowl? How massive was the personal wealth of Ghandi? And why does Hinn wear mandarin collars?
End of annoyed rant,
Dave
Cruentus
Grandmaster
grydth
Senior Master
This looks like the scene in our house on weekends when we announce chores to be done..... 4 children suddenly felled without being touched.... appeals and prayers to the deity..... claims of oppression and affliction.
Benny Hinn......if there is one guy I would love to see stoned to death, it is him. He is one of the biggest scam artists that have ever walked the earth and he is a disgrace. He is not, was not, or ever will be a Christian. He is a pathetic excuse for an evangelist and he sickens me.
Cirdan
Senior Master
Once again I got to wonder if stupidity really is the most powerful force in the universe. Why are all those people listening to this low life rotten worthless stinking poor excuse for a dingo`s droppings scumbag??
I'm more impressed by the power of Benny Hill
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YES, him and his "Hill's Angels" what an awesome combination...
IWishToLearn
3rd Black Belt
I hit the floor too - laughing.
Circdan's point is a good one I fear.
"Stupidity" does seem to have an elemental power. It's a bit like gravity in that, just as gravity increases with mass, so intelligence is inversely proportional to the size of the crowd.
Another elemental force, that may be related (and certainly provides energy for stupidity to grow) is bureaucracy and paperwork ... the latter of which I now have to reluctantly return too.
"Stupidity" does seem to have an elemental power. It's a bit like gravity in that, just as gravity increases with mass, so intelligence is inversely proportional to the size of the crowd.
Another elemental force, that may be related (and certainly provides energy for stupidity to grow) is bureaucracy and paperwork ... the latter of which I now have to reluctantly return too
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LawDog
Master Black Belt
I like Cirdans post, direct and very visual.
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Cirdan
Senior Master
Yep, and once the mass of stupidity reaches a critical level it implodes into point singularity stupidity, drawing in and devouring all common sense nearby and offering no escape!
This is mind control folks. The power of suggestion has these people completely in the thrall of this man. He is a modern day Mesmer, except that this stuff is being turned to more sinister ends...
donald
Black Belt
In response to all the bashers of Mr.Hinn, and televangelist in general. Not being that familar with Mr.Hinn's ministry. I really can't comment on him, but on televangelist in general I can comment. Some of them don't strike me as, shall we say, "sincere", that does'nt mean all of them are'nt. That kind of thinking is downright wrong. That kind of thinking teaches. That all Italians are La Cosa Nostra, all Chinese are Tong, all Southerners are Klan,etc.,etc.,etc.. The Holy Bible teaches us how to handle these types of situations. For instance if you have a mind to. Just check out Matthew Ch.18 verses 1 through 35. I guess it just boils down to. Where your faith is, and where its taking you. Are you a follower of Jesus Christ, or of Mr./Ms.????? . If your f-a-i-t-h is in a minister, and not The Mininster. You're setting yourself up for some major hurt. Anyone remember Jimmy Swaggert? I believe that situation resulted in alot of truly heart felt pain. Not because GOD abandoned anyone, but because their faith had been misdirected. Whether Mr.Swaggert(or Mr./Ms.????) set himself up in Christ place. Is'nt really the problem, but do we allow these teachers to take the place of Christ in our faith? I believe what The Lord Jesus gave Paul to say in 1stCorinthians ch.3 speaks volumes regarding this topic. I hope this was a help to someone? Peace...
1stJohn1:9
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