Goddsdammit… @Steve Care to explain what exactly you disagree with in my post? I mean… I'm basically saying that only Japanese Jujutsu systems qualify for discussion of Japanese Jujutsu… can you actually refute that? Or are you just being a jerk with your ratings again, lashing out on a personal issue because you, personally, also don't know what is what in this area? If the former, show your work. If the latter… frankly? Grow up. And don't give me the "obviously I disagreed with it… why should I have to explain it?" that you've given before… it won't fly. If you're going to disagree, you should have something to counter it with… or there's no credibility to your usage.