I think you are mixing me and Eric_H up.
Yes, I did note and apologise for that mistake. See post #34, perhaps you missed it.
The main point I am making can be summed up by a question: Is that guy Kwok Wan Ping’s disciple? If the answer is no, he is not, then why would Kwok Wan Ping be willing to give him everything about any of the Sup Yi Sik, which is what it appears to me he is showing the guy? If Kwok Wan Ping hasn’t known the guy for a fair while, how would he know that that guy can be trusted?
It has nothing to do with that guy, or Kwok Wan Ping in particular, it’s just a statement about not showing stuff in detail to people you don’t really know. That simple.
I understand what you're saying. I guess I view the videos differently; I don't see any magical secrets being shown, and I don't really understand why anyone would have a problem with Mr Kwok demonstrating whatever he sees fit in a doco. And beyond that - how do you know how long they've known each other?
Now, in relation to other stuff you are reading into my post. Absolutely nowhere did I suggest that that guy was coercing Kwok Wan Ping into anything. Absolutely nowhere did I insinuate that he was tricking anyone into being filmed, and absolutely nowhere did I assert that the guy had scheming of devious motives.
If I said any of that stuff in anything I wrote, quote them back to me. I suspect you won’t be able to.
I did - several times. Here goes again though.
But say someone shows up and asks you to show them a few things. They seem like a nice guy, they are passionate about kung fu and social conventions and polite manners dictate that you can't just come across like an a@#hole and tell them to go away?
I suspect that's the position a lot of these old traditional kung fu guys are put in when well meaning people show up and ask them to show them a few things. I bet that's the position Kwok Wan Ping was put in in the original video on this thread.
You bet Mr Kwok was put in a position in which he feels that polite manners dictate he can't just come across like an a@#hole and tell him to go away?
And you don't think that statement implies coercion? Ok.
As obi_juan_salami kindly stated, all I’m saying is that when someone comes and wants to talk with you about kung fu, you don’t know the guy so don’t know to what degree he can be trusted, but he seems OK so you are happy to share a bit of your material with him. But still, you don’t spill you guts about everything. It’s not a reflection on that guy filming stuff, it’s an acknowledgement that the relationship is not established to a degree that warrants trust.
Now, if you want to be irritated and offended by that, and further, read a heap of stuff into my post that’s not there. Be my guest.
I have no real issue with you having your own views on keeping your secret stuff. I have no real issue with you forming strange assumptions about documentary film makers and other kung fu teachers demonstrating stuff on film; you are of course welcome to them, they are worth as much as any. I studied YM WCK for a number of years, but quit over a decade ago - as I said earlier I didn't see anyone 'spilling their guts about everything' but you may see it differently.
I'm not offended - I believe I mentioned that. I do however know the guy, and think your characterisation is offensive. As I said before if I was the film maker I probably would be offended.