Wrist Weights, Ankle Weights, Chest Weights.. etc

[Tabris]

I'm a firm believer in the power of a good ankle/wrist weight in jogging, I've always found it helpful to add either a set of wrist or ankle weights every now and then to my jogs and its helped.

But if you follow the link below, you'll see why I'm saying "OUCH! That thing looks painful!"

http://www.renegadetraining.com/the_xvest.html


back pains for a year anyone??

 

[Logan]

That chest weight is still less stressful on your joints than ankle weights/wrists for jogging.....

 

[Kacey]

I'm more concerned about this part:

The basic premise of the Xvest™ is very simple: training or exercising the body at a heavier weight than it is accustomed. With specific exercises or very broad conditioning exercises, you will find that your conditioning level will improve and your strength, power, and quickness will also improve. This is accomplished by “tricking” your body, brain and your muscles to believe that you have gained this extra weight but in actuality, you have not. When the Xvest™ is removed, your body will function and react as if the weight is still there; therefore, you have tricked your mind and muscles and will be capable of producing power, speed, quickness and endurance at levels that you might have never obtained.

Now, I don't deny that adding weights to your body will give you a better workout, and can increase speed and strength because of the resistance... but I'm always amused by these claims that you have "tricked" your body into believing you have gained weight.

 

[Tabris]

That chest weight is still less stressful on your joints than ankle weights/wrists for jogging.....

Oh really? Other then my wife, whom is a doctor, telling me there is no problems caused by ankle weights... I've yet to see any concrete information behind such claims, I've used them on and off every now and then for years and have done myself no impairment... I think what your thinking off is using them EVERY moment of everyday. Plus there only 1 kilo and very tight to the body. Anything used or done every moment of everyday can kill you, take drinking water for example, or sleeping, or eating. The key here is doing/using them every now and then, maybe once a week for yet another illustration.

The chest weight itself, is much more taxing on the joints as its a full body collision with every movement, or so I have been told and comprehended about this article. It does not even secure itself to you fully, its just dropped over you.

If we believe that harm will come down on our joints from using weights placed for short periods of time on our bodies and used with the above key point in mind. Then standing up is harmful, lifting your leg to kick and letting your weight rest on the back leg even for one micro-second is then harmful.

I am not intending to sound discourteous in my above "rant" so of course excuse me if it seems so.

 

[still learning]

Hello, Any type of weight training has it benifits. Must be use wisely and correctly.

Those of us who have extra "natural" weights benifit from this all the time, like it or NOT!

It is when you lose it? ...that the benifits are really notice. This is where LOSING IT, (the term came from)

Hang on to your ankle weights and don't lose these either.

So get "LOST" ok? BUT: Gaining muscles and strenght is consider a useful thing

Aloha "from losing it'

 

[bydand]

Looks like I have been ahead of the times for years now, looking at the x-vest 40# one anyway. Shoot I have an extra 40 just through milkshakes and ding-dongs.

All joking aside though, I can see where each type of weight has it's place and time. Ankle, wrist and vest types all could be used for good conditioning, as well as used excessively and do more harm than good. I have recently made the choice that I REALLY need to lose my extra poundage (the excuse of winter insulation like Polar Bears use, doesn't impress either the Dr. or the wife.) I plan on using some of the lighter ankle and wrist weights, and never saw the vest before, but it makes sense.

 

[Logan]

Oh really? Other then my wife, whom is a doctor, telling me there is no problems caused by ankle weights... I've yet to see any concrete information behind such claims, I've used them on and off every now and then for years and have done myself no impairment... I think what your thinking off is using them EVERY moment of everyday. Plus there only 1 kilo and very tight to the body. Anything used or done every moment of everyday can kill you, take drinking water for example, or sleeping, or eating. The key here is doing/using them every now and then, maybe once a week for yet another illustration.

The chest weight itself, is much more taxing on the joints as its a full body collision with every movement, or so I have been told and comprehended about this article. It does not even secure itself to you fully, its just dropped over you.

If we believe that harm will come down on our joints from using weights placed for short periods of time on our bodies and used with the above key point in mind. Then standing up is harmful, lifting your leg to kick and letting your weight rest on the back leg even for one micro-second is then harmful.

I am not intending to sound discourteous in my above "rant" so of course excuse me if it seems so.

Yes really...I'm sure your wife is a very clever lady and I'm not doubting her abilities or anything but I'm guessing that she isn't a sports specialist.....

My point isn't that using weights is harmful to the body. What is harmful is simply the lack of control involved in swinging your limbs through a range of motion, with the added weight at the end of each limb increasing the stress.

If you used ankle/wrist weights and did the same movements in a controlled manner that can be very beneficial.

It is kinda like overextending while punching and kicking air.

Just because you may not notice any impairment does not make it a good thing.

Yes, lifting your leg or whatever is a weight but the emphasis again is on control. If you are overweight or adding weights to your chest/back you are still putting (likely unnecessary) stress on your body through doing impact exercise like jogging. It would be much better to use added weight through strength/strength-endurance exercises that can be better controlled like pull-ups etc.

 

[Tabris]

Just because you may not notice any impairment does not make it a good thing.

Your correct, the stress IS on control. I'm guessing your jogging in some attention-grabbing new way that I've never heard of.


But then again the whole process of walking is just one large controlled set of falling.

A side note, she may not be a ... "sports specialist" ... but she is a muscle specialist.

I like you once assumed that any burden that was added to the body other then its own was destructive. So I DO see where your coming from.

But to focus back on the subject, I’m glad you also agree that the chest weight is thoughtlessly hazardous. I’ve seen others such as this one, the most foolish was a forehead weight that would happily break ones neck if used without some kind of brace on said neck.

 

[bobster_ice]

Hold on a minute, you can get chest weights??

Are they not weighted jackets or something?

 

[Logan]

Your correct, the stress IS on control. I'm guessing your jogging in some attention-grabbing new way that I've never heard of.


But then again the whole process of walking is just one large controlled set of falling.

A side note, she may not be a ... "sports specialist" ... but she is a muscle specialist.

I like you once assumed that any burden that was added to the body other then its own was destructive. So I DO see where your coming from.

But to focus back on the subject, I’m glad you also agree that the chest weight is thoughtlessly hazardous. I’ve seen others such as this one, the most foolish was a forehead weight that would happily break ones neck if used without some kind of brace on said neck.

Starting to go into semantics here which is a bit futile......but

'I like you once assumed that any burden that was added to the body other then its own was destructive. So I DO see where your coming from.'

I didn't make any such assumption. Any form of exercise could be defined as a 'burden' to the body. I take it you are referring to someone being overweight or the like, in which case that is common sense.

'But to focus back on the subject, I’m glad you also agree that the chest weight is thoughtlessly hazardous. I’ve seen others such as this one, the most foolish was a forehead weight that would happily break ones neck if used without some kind of brace on said neck. '

That does sound silly.

'Your correct, the stress IS on control. I'm guessing your jogging in some attention-grabbing new way that I've never heard of. '

Jogging/Running is an impact exercise that puts considerably stress on the joints - great fitness progress can be made in 6 weeks with regular jogging but after that injuries are quite common due to the intensity of the exercise (either faster speed or more distance or both) increasing at a pace that the body's ability to adapt can't keep up with. It takes the body longer at this point to adjust to more intense training (bones, tendons etc), when exactly depends on the individual. Foot injuries among rookie soldiers rocket after six weeks or so training due to this (marching/jogging).

By adding weights, you are creating more immediate stress, leaving the chance of injury much more likely to occur. Weights at the end of your limbs make it harder to fully control your movements, especially at speed, making you more likely to overextend your joints.

Regular runners have enough foot/knee problems without adding to it. If you think about why you use ankle/wrist weights - is it to increase strength? Strength-endurance? Power? Whatever your answer, there are much better and safer ways to get results.

Chest weight vests, in my opinion, can be less stressful than ankle/wrist because they are kept in a constant plane, rather than shifting back and forwards through a range of motion. The stress is distributed more evenly throughout the body than focusing on particularly joints.

 

[Tabris]

Starting to go into semantics here which is a bit futile.

You indeed are going into semantics....

I am sure we'll have to agree to disagree on points of each others way of thinking, which in my humble opinion is what makes this forum all the better.

 

[Tabris]

Hold on a minute, you can get chest weights??

Are they not weighted jackets or something?

http://www.renegadetraining.com/the_xvest.html

Yes, you can also get weights that look oddly like ropes to pull up your pants.

stomach, thigh, elbow, neck, shoulders.. and ..amm.. anywhere a weight can go really.

On a side note, where in Northern Ireland are you from? I'm from Bangor (living in Australia for a few years)

 

[Christina05]

That chest weight is still less stressful on your joints than ankle weights/wrists for jogging.....

Very true

 

[bobster_ice]

On a side note, where in Northern Ireland are you from? I'm from Bangor (living in Australia for a few years)

Cool, im from comber, it only a few miles from Bangor .

 

[stone_dragone]

I and my other service brothers get things like these issued to us...they are called Body Armor. A lot of units have their soldiers do PT in full armor when getting ready for deployments and such. I have found that it does help.

I used to wear ankle weights for two or three days all day prior to a tournament to help make my kicks faster on that day...somedays I was faster, somedays I wasn't fast enough (it didn't do anything for my blocking....)