What isn't racism?

[billc]

Let's see...

Tea party wants the government to spend less = racist.

Al Gore says people who don't believe in man made global warming are like 1960's democrat racists...

Don't believe in man made global warming = racist

People who were against the Clinton's when they tried to take over health care also don't want Obama, Reid and Pelosi taking over healthcare

You don't want Obamacare = racist

You want public unions to pay for part of their medical and retirement benefits, is that also racist?

Is there literally anything out there in the politicial world where if you disagree with the democrats on a policy issue, you are not automatically considered a racist?

 

[elder999]

Let's see...

Tea party wants the government to spend less = racist.

Really? Where's a quote from someone calling less government spending "racist?"

Al Gore says people who don't believe in man made global warming are like 1960's democrat racists...

Really? Where's a quote fromAl Gore calling not believing in global warming "racist?"

In fact, don't bother-he said what you said he said, just not like you seem to think he said it:

remember, again going back to my early years in the South, when the Civil Rights revolution was unfolding, there were two things that really made an impression on me,” Gore said. “My generation watched Bull Connor turning the hose on civil rights demonstrators and we went, ‘Whoa! How gross and evil is that?’ My generation asked old people, ‘Explain to me again why it is okay to discriminate against people because their skin color is different?’ And when they couldn’t really answer that question with integrity, the change really started.”

The former vice president recalled how society succeeded in marginalizing racists and said climate change skeptics must be defeated in the same manner.

Don't believe in man made global warming = racist

See above.

People who were against the Clinton's when they tried to take over health care also don't want Obama, Reid and Pelosi taking over healthcare

You don't want Obamacare = racist

Really? Where's a quote from someone calling not supporting 'Obamacare' "racist?"

You want public unions to pay for part of their medical and retirement benefits, is that also racist?

I dunno. Got a quote?

Is there literally anything out there in the politicial world where if you disagree with the democrats on a policy issue, you are not automatically considered a racist?

Is there literally anything out there in the political world where if you disagree with the democrats on a policy issue, you don't automatically cry about being considered "racist?" :lfao:

Seriously, billi-I'm actually with you on more than a few issues. Your posts, though, make a lot of so-called conservatives look stupid by association.

 

[billc]

Well, when Gore discusses the democrats who were segregationists and then goes on to discuss people who are not convinced on global warming, he is attempting to paint them as the same as the racists. It is what he is doing.

The congressional black caucus, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson, Jeneane Garafalo, are calling the tea party racists. The tea party wants government to stop spending our money and to get control of out of control government. Racism is not any where a part of the tea party. So, if you are calling for the government to be more fiscally responsible, the new tactic is to call you a racist...

http://www.breitbart.tv/congression...arty-wants-black-americans-hanging-on-a-tree/

If you oppose Obama care you are doing it only because Obama is black, that is why I pointed to the Clinton's when they tried to take over healthcare. People against Obama care are against the government controlling access to health care, they are not against it because Obama is black.

 

[billc]

Hmmm...

[h=3]Paul Krugman Yelps That Opposing ObamaCare Is Racist[/h]

Never mind Kenneth Gladney, the black conservative who was beaten up by Democrat-deployed union thugs for opposing ObamaCare. The NY Slimes' cartoonish Paul Krugman proclaims that resisting healthcare nazification is racist:​

For the most part, the protesters appear to be genuinely angry. The question is, what are they angry about?​

Power-mad socialists trying to replace their healthcare system with a statist nightmare straight out of Logan's Run? No, guess again:​

[T]hey're probably reacting less to what Mr. Obama is doing, or even to what they've heard about what he's doing, than to who he is. … it's a strategy that has played a central role in American politics ever since Richard Nixon realized that he could advance Republican fortunes by appealing to the racial fears of working-class whites.​

Some more accusations of racism from Paul Krugman...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-waters/2009/08/07/paul-krugman-sees-racism-among-town-hall-mob-protesters

I

n Krugman's self-satisfied world view, opposing Obama's health-care plan is not only misguided, it's (of course) racist:

But they're probably reacting less to what Mr. Obama is doing, or even to what they've heard about what he's doing, than to who he is.
That is, the driving force behind the town hall mobs is probably the same cultural and racial anxiety that's behind the "birther" movement, which denies Mr. Obama's citizenship. Senator Dick Durbin has suggested that the birthers and the health care protesters are one and the same; we don't know how many of the protesters are birthers, but it wouldn't be surprising if it's a substantial fraction.
And cynical political operators are exploiting that anxiety to further the economic interests of their backers.
Does this sound familiar? It should: it's a strategy that has played a central role in American politics ever since Richard Nixon realized that he could advance Republican fortunes by appealing to the racial fears of working-class whites.
Many people hoped that last year's election would mark the end of the "angry white voter" era in America. Indeed, voters who can be swayed by appeals to cultural and racial fear are a declining share of the electorate.
​

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/clay-w...-among-town-hall-mob-protesters#ixzz1WZDepKYU

 

[billc]

Sheila Jackson Lee:

Jackson Lee: Racism Fuels Debt Crisis

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) on Friday strongly suggested that members of Congress are making it difficult for President Obama to raise the debt ceiling because of his race. "Read between the lines," she said. "What is different about this president that should put him in a position that he should not receive the same kind of respectful treatment of when it is necessary to raise the debt limit in order to pay our bills, something required by both statute and the 14th amendment?"

 

[Cyriacus]

Yes well, the Left will do that

In all seriousness, its used i believe because if you argue with it, they can try and use that arguement to prove their point.

 

[billc]

Hmmm...Unions:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/03/union-equates-lavish-benefits-black-civil-rights

A lot of people forget that what [King] was doing in Memphis was fighting for sanitation workers there," says Josh Goldstein, an AFL-CIO spokesman. "It's important for people to make the connection. Martin Luther King was so important to the labor movement. Workers' rights and civil rights go hand in hand. It's a time to remind people what he was fighting for."

Read more at the Washington Examiner: [URL]http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/03/union-equates-lavish-benefits-black-civil-rights#ixzz1WZHSQHVM[/URL]

 

[billc]

Oh, here's another one. If you are against ILLEGAL immigration, you are a racist. Do I have to look that one up?

 

[billc]

Moveon.org guy...

http://biggovernment.com/mrctv/2011/03/01/audio-moveon-coordinator-caught-on-tape-at-union-rally-tea-party-driven-by-racism/

MoveOn: My opinion is that, first of all, Tea Partiers tend to be in a wealthier category so even if you don’t currently benefit from it, people don’t want to tax millionaires because everyone believes, kinda, in their heart of hearts that ‘I’m gonna be a millionaire one day’, you know? So there’s kinda that class envy that fuels it and also I personally believe, especially in Louisiana, for a lot of citizens it’s racism.

 

[billc]

Rep. Clyburn:

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/top-black-democrat-declares-opposition-to-obama-based-on-race/

If you believe Congressman James Clyburn (D-SC), corporations stopped buying durable goods, home buyers put their plans on hold, and people quit their jobs on purpose — all to make the president look bad. Why would they want to do that?
Racism of course.
Clyburn didn’t say it directly, but he certainly implied as much in this

interview with McClatchy Newspapers. The House minority whip declared the cause of President Obama’s problems is racism.

“You know, I’m 70 years old,” he said. “And I can tell you; people don’t like to deal with it, but the fact of the matter is, the president’s problems are in large measure because of the color of his skin.”
Clyburn noted that he himself got hate mail, racist phone calls and offensive faxes on a regular basis. Asked how that relates to the president, Clyburn retorted: “We have the same skin color; that’s how it relates to him.”
[...]
Clyburn suggested that the “birther” movement of Americans who say Obama wasn’t born in the United States is fueled by racism.
“I don’t know why anybody didn’t ask for John McCain’s” birth certificate,” Clyburn said. “He wasn’t even born in this country.”
​

Clyburn is one of those political conspiracy theorists who brand every negative comment against President Obama or any other African-American in power as intended to demean people of color. And this isn’t the first time Clyburn has inserted race into a discussion. During the stimulus debate, Clyburn had some strong comments for governors who opposed the plan.

“The governor of Louisiana expressed opposition. Has the highest African-American population in the country. Governor of Mississippi expressed opposition. The governor of Texas, and the governor of South Carolina. These four governor’s represent states that are in the black belt. I was insulted by that,” Clyburn said. “All of this was a slap in the face of African-Americans. It had nothing to do with Governor Sanford.”





​

It was a staffer of Rep. Clyburn who first made the claim that Tea Party members protesting the final Obamacare vote called the Civil Rights hero Congressman John Lewis a ni**er, a claim that has been disproved by all of the video evidence.
The fact that the claim was a hoax didn’t stop Clyburn from trying to exploit it to discredit the Tea Party.

“It was absolutely shocking to me,” Clyburn said, in response to a question from the Huffington Post. “Last Monday, this past Monday, I stayed home to meet on the campus of Claflin University where fifty years ago as of last Monday… I led the first demonstrations in South Carolina, the sit ins…. And quite frankly I heard some things today I have not heard since that day. I heard people saying things that I have not heard since March 15, 1960 when I was marching to try and get off the back of the bus.”
​

Clyburn’s fake racism charges are part of a larger progressive strategy. It builds on the existing liberal meme of the intolerant conservative. Its nefarious purpose is to end discussion by intimidating people not to criticize progressive policy, and as in the case with the McClatchy interview, it remains unchallenged by the mainstream media who distribute these false claims.

 

[MA-Caver]

??? what happened to my post???

 

[granfire]

??? what happened to my post???

The racists ate it....

 

[billc]

Gore could have used any of the science theories from history to demonstrate his belief that people who do not believe in man made global warming are not paying attention to what he believes the facts are. The earth is flat debate, or the sun revolving around the earth debate, but no, he went straight to the democrat racists of the 1960's in an attempt to paint the people who doubt the science behind global warming as being of the same type as the racists. He meant to smear them into silence.

 

[elder999]

Gore could have used any of the science theories from history to demonstrate his belief that people who do not believe in man made global warming are not paying attention to what he believes the facts are. The earth is flat debate, or the sun revolving around the earth debate, but no, he went straight to the democrat racists of the 1960's in an attempt to paint the people who doubt the science behind global warming as being of the same type as the racists. He meant to smear them into silence.

No. He didn't-he was talking about the struggle to change the discussion with the doubters involved. Bill Nye (the "Science Guy") explained it pretty well on FoxNews last night:

‎"If someone from New England has sex with someone from Papua, New Guinea, you get a human. You don't get anything else. So, racism is scientifically not especially compelling. If you learn the science of it, you let go of it. And when you learn the science of climate change, in my opinion, you will find it quite compelling and you will want to do something about it rather than pretend it doesn't happen"

Seen here

(And this is what I'm talking about, billi-it looks like poor reading comprehension and deliberate obtuseness. As a consequence, by calling yourself a "conservative" you paint intelligent people like Rich Parsons and myself with the same brush, and make people like Tez, Sukerkin and Ken Morgan figure we're morons.....)

 

[CanuckMA]

(And this is what I'm talking about, billi-it looks like poor reading comprehension and deliberate obtuseness. As a consequence, by calling yourself a "conservative" you paint intelligent people like Rich Parsons and myself with the same brush, and make people like Tez, Sukerkin and Ken Morgan figure we're morons.....)

Well, you are Americans... :uhyeah::roflmao:

 

[WC_lun]

OP just looks like a lot of false equations to me. Disagreeing with the right does not mean calling them a racist. It is a good victim card though, if believed.

 

[MaxiMe]

Well, you are Americans... :uhyeah::roflmao:

True we aren't fueled by mac and cheese....:uhyeah:

 

[billc]

Well, no. Gore could have stated, in the old days, people believed that the sun revolved around the earth, then, as science improved, it was shown that the earth revolved around the sun. He didn't use that example or anything like it. He went to the racists in order to associate people who do not believe the science behind global warming is accurate, and the attempts to fake data and destroy data don't help counter their beliefs, with racists. You are missing the tactic that gore is using, regardless of what Bill Nye the science guy may try to say.

 

[billc]

Also from gore's interview:

When Bogusky questioned the analogy, asking if the scientific reasoning behind climate change skeptics might throw a wrench into the good and evil comparison with racism, Gore did not back down.

“I think it’s the same where the moral component is concerned and where the facts are concerned I think it is important to get that out there, absolutely,” Gore said.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/28/g...s-are-this-generations-racists/#ixzz1Wcf3mgp9
​

 

[JohnEdward]

I don't understand the focus on Gore. No one pays attention to him anyway?

Nazis, racism, what other political cards are used in the world of political competition by color commentators (talking heads), and rowdy fans? Is there a Jesus card...hmmmm?

Bill good one, you got a lot of responses quickly. But I think the discussion nose dived with brining up Gore. Just my opinion.