What if?

[Zephyor]

Consider 2 martial artists: X and Y .
Both have identical body performace/type
Both have identical talent towards theyr art,
Both trained for same amount of time, equally proficient.

X does Muay Thai
Y does Wing Chun

How would a fight between them degenerate?
PS: I don't try to say that one art is better than other neither to proofe it, i just want to know how would these 2 styles interact with eachother

 

[Tez3]

'Degenerate'? You mean turn into a brawl?

 

[KangTsai]

Let's assume they both have decent bone conditioning.

Nak muay's best bet is to:

A) keep wing chun man at a distance to blow him up with kicks which, no matter how good you are at any martial art, are going to suffer from. The kick however may get caught if not careful.
B) maintain dominant clinching to hurl vicious knees, elbows and sweeps.

Now, with all the tools the nak muay has against wing chun man over here, his best bets would be:

A)taking advantage of openings in the guard required to throw hard kicks
B)since traditional nak muays are never combo-punchers, more setup punchers, a good, precise flurry of strikes may do their job very well. However, there is always a threat of a combo-breaking elbow or knee.
C)clinch better than the other guy to keep pressure holds, throw strikes and sweeps.

It would really go either way.

 

[Kickboxer101]

Impossible to say completely impossible

 

[Tez3]

it depends on what's at stake and who wants it more. I still don't think you meant 'degenerate' though, there's nothing degenerate about fighting though there's some who think there is.

 

[SOD-WC]

Im just offering my opinion, which may be totally wrong. But as time is a factor of improvement lets say if its 2 beginners going at it, the muay thai would have a competitive edge as they do more conditioning and it's generally a hard art, where as most WC is soft hence will take time before being effective.....unless the school trains spraing from day 1 i guess?

 

[Danny T]

"How would a fight between them degenerate?"
Degenerate?
- Having sunk to a condition below that which is normal to a particular standard:
- Having sunk to a lower and usually corrupt and vicious state;
- Having low moral standards; not honest, proper, or good

 

[Gerry Seymour]

"How would a fight between them degenerate?"
Degenerate?
- Having sunk to a condition below that which is normal to a particular standard:
- Having sunk to a lower and usually corrupt and vicious state;
- Having low moral standards; not honest, proper, or good

We can make sense of the question if we use the second definition. It's not the question he meant, but we can certainly start answering that one.

 

[Danny T]

We can make sense of the question if we use the second definition. It's not the question he meant, but we can certainly start answering that one.

Possibly, if there were rules set forth and one broke a rule or two and the other did as well.

 

[Tez3]

A degenerate fight Fitzsimmons vs. Sharkey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Possibly, if there were rules set forth and one broke a rule or two and the other did as well.

Or just became more vicious. (I originally typed "viscous", which changes the entire direction of this thread. And, perhaps, the fight.)

 

[Tez3]

Or just became more vicious. (I originally typed "viscous", which changes the entire direction of this thread. And, perhaps, the fight.)

I can go with viscous, it makes it slide easier.....

 

[Danny T]

^^^^^^^
It may also be thick and sticky...adhesive even.

This conversation is quickly turning degenerative...for some.

 

[Tez3]

I think being honest that rather than asking a hypothetical question that is nearly impossible to answer it would be better to go out and experiment. there's rarely any way of knowing how a fight like that would pan out, too many variables despite what the OP thinks is them being equal.
Are there rules? If so what? Are there rounds, all techniques allowed or some not? Is it a grudge or revenge fight? Has one got more to lose/prove than the other?
These would be people fighting not robots with all the frailties and strengths of people, you could speculate that they would use certain techniques because of their style but as always with any fight, it's the person not the style.

 

[Buka]

Well, if it was an internet forum fight - I think the Wing Chun guy would have had the longer training camp. (Oh, snap!)

 

[Xue Sheng]

What if the Titanic didn't hit the iceberg... would Ip man ever have trained Bruce Lee

 

[yak sao]

What if the Titanic didn't hit the iceberg... would Ip man ever have trained Bruce Lee

Silly question. I think we all know that if the Titanic didn't sink, Yip Man would have gone on to open a chain of grocery stores in Australia leaving Bruce Lee free to follow his dancing career which would have had him ending up as a judge on Dancing With the Stars.

 

[jks9199]

By appearing on the latest so-called "educational show" about combat sports...

 

[wingchun100]

Maybe "degenerate" means if neither attacker is getting a solid hit...then they get frustrated and abandon all their training, converting it into the kind of video you would get if you typed "street fight" into Youtube's search engine.