Union for thee, but not for me (Obama)

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billc

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Apparently, the pro-union Obama family is using non-union labor to celebrate "the ones" birthday party tonight. Hmmmm...doesn't surprise me in the least.

http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2011...ires-non-union-crew-for-obamas-birthday-bash/

from the article:

In case you live under a rock and haven’t heard, Barack Obama turns 50 today. And, the place to be tonight is the Aragon. The party starts at 7:00. But don’t bother to show up if you’re a union member. The White House hired a non-union crew for the event tonight.
A confidential and trusted union source contacted me today to report that the crews called in to work Obama’s birthday bash are non-union. Union members are OUTRAGED that Obama would turn his back on them.
Curiously, my source added that the day rate is actually higher for the non-union members to do the work. It’s not a money issue. What gives?
 
On another note, Richard Roeper, a sun times columnist, former member of Ebert and Roeper at the movies, and now a cohost on the Roe Kahn radio show here in chicago made the point that at this point in the re-election cycle, George Bush had had 3 fund raisers. Roeper, no right winger, pointed out that Obama, ("The One," who was going to change the system) has had 30 fund raisers. This birthday party is another huge fund raiser.
 
I think there are more pressing concerns when hiring people to work in the White House, like some basic kind of security clearance...

Oh, right, I am sure Obama made an executive order to not hie union workers....

good grief, find something relevant for a change.
 
The birthday party fund raiser is not at the white house but here in chicago at the Aragon ballroom. So much for chicago as a big union town.
 
Chicago has a pretty sorted past, and most Illinois Governs seem to end up in jail. Unions are corrupt, and those politicians (Republicans) who bust up the Unions are puppets of conservative business leaders who want nothing more than to put more money in their pockets just for bragging rights. Democrats are full of hot air, and staying true to "all talk and no action." We have a disappearing middle class that was once the lower upper class, meaning those who where middle class are almost gone, and the lower upper class has slipped into that same pool of economic quicksand. What is to blame, conservatives and liberals, Independents etc. Because we have become a corporate government. The Republicans are the cheerleaders and the Democrats are the silent partners. What good is us the peanut gallery, the suckers, us, root for one party or the other? What we should be doing is getting Democracy back on its intended track, the Government for the people by the people, than we can sling some proper mud, to insure we stay on track.
 
billcihak said:
The birthday party fund raiser is not at the white house but here in chicago at the Aragon ballroom. So much for chicago as a big union town.
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There is still security to take care of.

And the place you rent will have either their own crew, or a list of prefered caterers.
 
Let's face it, Billcihak would have moaned if Obama had used an all union venue. I thought that's what America stood for..free choice, not though if Billcihak''s chosen politicians get in, heaven help you all if they do, that's your free choice gone, if you aren't for them, you are against them and they'll have that UnAmerican Activities Commitee up and running againso fast that you'll be off to their equivilent of the Gulag before you can even protest. You'll join the union members, the Muslims, the socialists and everyone else who actually dares think for themselves.
 
Sorry Tez, gulags, and thought police are the tools of the left and the socialists, they are the ones who also treat people as mindless groups and destroy the individual. I am against those things. Obama was simply demonstrating that wonderful observation by George Orwell that some animals are more equal than others. Obama uses the force of law, as we see by the NLRB actions against Boeing and any number of other companies and their employees, to give the unions power, the union then gives money to the democrat politicians who then give the unions more power. Of course, when it comes to the businesses democrat politicians own no unions are allowed.
 
billcihak said:
Sorry Tez, gulags, and thought police are the tools of the left and the socialists, they are the ones who also treat people as mindless groups and destroy the individual. I am against those things. Obama was simply demonstrating that wonderful observation by George Orwell that some animals are more equal than others. Obama uses the force of law, as we see by the NLRB actions against Boeing and any number of other companies and their employees, to give the unions power, the union then gives money to the democrat politicians who then give the unions more power. Of course, when it comes to the businesses democrat politicians own no unions are allowed.
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No, the Gulags etc are the tools of the dictators of all ilks. Your closed minded approach to politics is only amusing for so long, then it gets tedious then downright dangerous. Your hatred of socialism and your blaming it for all the worlds evils leaves you blind to the truth which frankly I don't think you'd know if it came and bit you on the ****.
I don't know what the unions do in your country, frankly don't care but you obviously don't know the history of the union movement and the good unions have done elsewhere. There are a great many people who are right wing and vote Conservative here who are also union members. A 2009 Populus Poll showed of the 'Unite' union showed that 34% were Labour and 31% were Tory (Conservatives). this mix is much the same in many unions, they don't all vote socialist, many are die hard Tories. Speak for your country by all means, let your countrymen disagree with you but don't speak for all unions, all Conservatives etc. You have shown already your lack of understanding of European history as far as wartime Germany etc is concerned, don't compound that by tarring the union movement with the same brush, it don't wash. You have your brand of politics which doesn't ring true in the world at large, nothing your President does short of dying is going to please you yet it seems he was voted in by somebody so there are people out there who support him, can we hear from someone who does just for a change or at the very least can we have a balanced view for us non Americans?
 
They are however, the specialty of the lefty dictatorships. The germans, russians, vietnamese, cubans, learned this in the last century. Unions have done a lot of good, but like anything else they have become the problem. They are killing the economy over here, they are bankrupting school districts, and states and when people say, "no thanks," to unionization, they send in the thugs. They are using their conections to corrupt politicians to attack the very businesses that hire their workers. Just ask Boeing.
 
billcihak said:
They are however, the specialty of the lefty dictatorships. The germans, russians, vietnamese, cubans, learned this in the last century. Unions have done a lot of good, but like anything else they have become the problem. They are killing the economy over here, they are bankrupting school districts, and states and when people say, "no thanks," to unionization, they send in the thugs. They are using their conections to corrupt politicians to attack the very businesses that hire their workers. Just ask Boeing.
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Poland - 'Solidarity'

Before you condemn unions I suggest you read up on the history of the trade union movement before you start with the 'lefty' bollocks again. Life isn't black and white, just because you think something doesn't mean it is so.
 
It is not the history of labor unions that is important but what they are doing to the economy in the present. They are more than willing to let states and businesses be destroyed and they use the power of the government to do it. They are short sighted and destructive, today. They are damaging the country, today. They don't care for their membership, today. They will let the whole system collapse, today, to keep their hold on power. Not in history, but now.
 
billcihak said:
It is not the history of labor unions that is important but what they are doing to the economy in the present. They are more than willing to let states and businesses be destroyed and they use the power of the government to do it. They are short sighted and destructive, today. They are damaging the country, today. They don't care for their membership, today. They will let the whole system collapse, today, to keep their hold on power. Not in history, but now.
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Are you so sure that in every country every union is ruining it? Really? I don't think so, your unions may be rubbish, I don't know but that doesn't make all unions bad unless of course you are one of those who believes that nothing outside of the States is of any import and we are all lesser beings compared to you.
Stop generalising and state which unions you believe are ruining your country and stop maligning the rest of the union movement who still do good work all around the world.
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We'll see what happens in the next year or so. Keep an eye out for union activity around the world as the economies get worse and see how much the unions can share the blame.

Auto workers unions, teachers unions, the federal workers unions...
 
Here is an article on the growing power and corruption in unions in South Korea:

http://industrialrelations.typepad.com/unionsfirmsmarkets/2005/03/when_unions_hur.html

from the article:

When a labor union's power grows extremely strong such that the employer or the government cannot control it, the labor union uses their right to go on strike as a threat and makes their share far larger than the appropriate level of productivity. Then, the company's competitiveness goes down, and its ability to provide new jobs will decline.
When a labor union of a large business group benefits from wage hike, the expenses to do so go to contractors. Wages of workers at contractors will go down, or the contractors will reduce new hires.
An executive of an auto component maker at Ulsan's Hyomun industrial complex said, "Whenever the Hyundai Motor labor union and the firm undergo wage negotiations, prices of our components were mentioned. Eventually, we have to cut down the wage increase that we promised to our workers." Due to the activities of militant labor unions, a labor market becomes polarized.
When Kia or Hyundai motor companies see that some of its car models become unexpectedly popular, the employers must place more workers on the assembly lines of those models as soon as possible. But, the employers could not do so, because the labor unions reject such changes.
When workers change assembly lines, such reshuffles may change the number of representatives at the labor unions representing certain factions or interest groups, disturbing the power balance within the labor unions. Therefore, such position changes are often rejected by unions.
After the Kia Motors incident, labor unions have lost the public trust. To restore confidence, the labor unions must take initiatives in providing more new jobs, not taking bribes in return for giving existing jobs.
 
I stopped reading the infomercials you post up a long time ago, they are one sided and full of misinformation. If you are relying on them for your information I can see where you get your ideas from. You ignored the fact I said that unions here have just about as many Conservative members as Labour ones, doesn't fit your ideas I suppose.
It's this again when trying to discuss anything with you.
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Tez3 said:
I stopped reading the infomercials you post up a long time ago, they are one sided and full of misinformation. If you are relying on them for your information I can see where you get your ideas from. You ignored the fact I said that unions here have just about as many Conservative members as Labour ones, doesn't fit your ideas I suppose.
It's this again when trying to discuss anything with you.
:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
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I see all those heads hitting the walls in sync, and just start humming "working in the coalmine, goin downtown..." Just a thought, carry on. :rofl:
 
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