Since a palm strike is really not a TKD hand strike have any of you TKD'ers used a palm strike. I know as MA'ers alot of us have, but have you used it in a tournament or in real life?
Terry
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Palm Strike
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I can honestly say I have never used one outside of the classroom.
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jfarnsworth said:
When you have used it was it with the finger turned or with a open hand?
Terry
A palm heel strike is not a TKD hand strike? We use that technique in forms and it is one of the first techniques used in board breaking. Of course, I study American TKD. (ATA)
I don't use it in a tournament because we are only allowed to strike to the body and I find that uppercuts, hooks, and crosses deliver more "oompth". If we were allowed to strike to the head I would use palm heels and open hand strikes to prevent damage to my hands.
As for real life, I have never needed to strike another person. I have had to use some of the "traditional" blocks, some of the TKD foot work, and such, but never a "strike".
he just said he never used it. so neither!terryl965 said:
I am not a TKDer so excuse my intrusion, i hope you dont mind me join this thread. when i practice with my bro, on pads or something, i feel palm strikes lack power. if i am to make the move and reach his face or something, im definitely delivering kunckles.
The only place i see great use of palm strikes is back palms, used to reach out far to distract the opponent and create a "stinging" feeling.
I do not know why you would use closed fingers because when you strike with the palm you are using the lower side of your palm, so relaxing the fingers might be ideal. unless you have another idea
Hand position depends on what I"m going to do "next" with it. Tongiht in our technique line we used the palm heel to the chin but then turned the fingers to our left to snake around and grab the back of the head. I also taught a student a palm heel strike with the fingers pointed towards our right because my next move was to shove my index finger and thumb in their eye socket. I have also used a palm heel in a torqueing fashion to where the fingers almost pointed down to get maximum hit on the solar plexus. Take your pick, I do a lot of different types.terryl965 said:
mantis said:
I respectfully disagree with you. If I had my choice I'd rather open palm strike someone in the head rather than use my closed fist. I personally don't want to break my knuckles on someone's skull. There's a lot of body mechanics required behind those strikes to make them effective.
alright, i'll let you disagree with me this time, but dont do it again (kidding)jfarnsworth said:
could you please be more specific as where you direct the palm?
according to physics if the surface is smaller the impact will be smaller. but according to MA if you know where to direct it then it could make even a bigger impact, that part i lack my friend
thanks!
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Mantis I too have to dis-agree with you I have used the palm strike in real life and have broke the guys rib cage with it, the palm strike delivers more of a area blow than just a target blow. When I state with the finger turned I'm talking about just just turning down thew second knuckle to avoid someone from using your fingers against you and delivering the blow from the heel of the palm.
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Om that particular stituation it was staight although I do turn it sideways from time to time just to stop an opponet from coming in along both side of the outer rib cage under the arm pits.mantis said:
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You are welcome Mantis always enjoy a good converstation.mantis said:
Terry
mantis said:
To start with when you rotate your right punch over you are using the same torque as you would with your palm heel strike. Look at the action of your punch, slowly. Once you start to clench your fist for impact open it up to strike with the heel of palm. Move at a slightly downward angle at first to get used to it. This has the same principle as a punch. Flex your fingers pointed upwards and keep them slightly apart. Not like your giving a high five or something but fractions of an inch that feels comfortable. Next, you have to get the shoulder, and back up mass behind you....
However it's almost 11:30 and I'm physically drained from tonights class and need to shower before bed. Catch you tomorrow.
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We are required to do a palm strike through 3 boards for bb. Well, some of us are. Then concrete for the rest of us that aren't so favored for 1st dan. Its also a self defense technique to the jaw/face for yellow belt. I imagine it is pretty effective if you can go through concrete already so I'm glad I did. And I've used that palm/concrete in tournaments alot. TW
karatekid1975
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I love palm strikes. They can be evil %-} Anyways, we use palm strikes in our dojang. I have also used them in breaking. I shattered boards with it hehehehehehe *evil grin* We can't use them during sparring though They would kinda hurt LOL.
They would kinda hurt LOL.
How in Gods name does a palm strike have less power then a close handed strike?mantis said:he just said he never used it. so neither!
I am not a TKDer so excuse my intrusion, i hope you dont mind me join this thread. when i practice with my bro, on pads or something, i feel palm strikes lack power. if i am to make the move and reach his face or something, im definitely delivering kunckles.
The only place i see great use of palm strikes is back palms, used to reach out far to distract the opponent and create a "stinging" feeling.
I do not know why you would use closed fingers because when you strike with the palm you are using the lower side of your palm, so relaxing the fingers might be ideal. unless you have another idea
Sean
As it was taught to me, the primary purpose of a palm strike is to be a mid section strike, targeting soft tissue, intended to cause internal damage as opposed to the surface damage you would get from a normal punch. However, I've found that a palm strike can generate more than enough power to stop a large opponent. A palm strike to say, a cheek bone may not cut, but it sure will inflate your opponents eye and scramble his eggs. Besides, you don't cut your knuckles that way....and I have such pretty hands...
Martial Tucker
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The palm strike is an important weapon in our school, and we execute it, as you say, with fingers tucked in. Also, as for it being/not being a TKD strike, it is used repeatedly in Palgwe Yuk Jang (6).terryl965 said:
