- Jul 9, 2008
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- Covington, WA
I know, and to be clear, I'm not going to address it for two main reasons. First, I think it's self apparent. I mean, there is a fundamental difference, and I can't begin to diagnose why you choose not to recognize it. Don't get me wrong. I could give explaining it a shot, but I think it would end up being a tremendous amount of wasted time on my part. It's happened before. I explain it in a long post that takes up time I'd much rather be doing something else. You respond with two sentences that makes it clear you don't get it. I explain it again differently. You still don't get it. I start to try and simplify my explanation, and you say I'm being condescending. I explain it again, and that's about the time I'm told that what I'm saying is obvious and everyone already knows it (but then asks the same question again). I get frustrated. Don't get me wrong. There are things with enough meat on the bone that we can discuss them. But if we can't agree as a given... as a fundamental understanding... that sparring is not fighting, well, I'm not sure where things go. As I've said in the past, if you insist on holding that to be true, I hope you AND your students never have to test your practical skill level in an actual fight.Okay, for the second response to this. You've still missed answering my question of how sparring (in all iterations) is so very distant from competiiton (in all iterations).
So, let me ask you to answer two questions:
- How does a pick-up soccer game differ from a league event among people of the same level?
- How is sparring not analogous to a pick-up soccer game? (As in, where does the analogy fail?)
Second, I think the questions you ask above aren't all that relevant. They get into semantics. The salient question, I think, is whether or not sparring is fighting. I don't think it is. I think sparring with training partners is obviously not a fight. You seem to believe otherwise, and I think you have a vested interest in promoting a style of training where you can learn the art of fighting without needing to fight.
I have reservations about anything that says it can teach you to do something without any actual application on the part of the student. I understand how skills develop, and have personally trained literally tens of thousands of people to do things at an expert level over the years. So, when I hear that folks are learning to fight without fighting, I am skeptical (to be as generous as possible). So, when someone trains and only spars, he or she is becoming an expert training partner. And if that person ever gets into an actual fight with someone, they will need to transfer their training partner skills to a different context. Their likelihood of success will depend on two things: their skill level, and how similar those skills are to the new context. We see evidence all the time that the two contexts are dissimilar enough that transfer of skill is unreliable and break down in an actual fight. As I mentioned above, we even have examples from highly skilled practitioners.