kane said:
Some people hate Bush so much that if they get the chance they might try to kill him. Think about it.
I'm not saying the people on the street is insane, that is just a figure of speech. I just hope that the protest doesn't turn to ugly.
shesulsa said:
Okay, this sounds a lot like news digested to me. Come on, now - how many dems to you hear saying, "I'm sure some people hate Kerry so much that if they get the chance, they might try to kill him." You have inferred the application of a generalization when the correct reference might be to a handful of people.
Your statement is not taken seriously because you cannot be serious in a general sense. You are flinging this statement out at a large group of people to whom it does not apply, and it is a serious accusation. Do you really not see how preposterous it is?
I find it much more scary than you shesulsa. You see, I think most people think that most people are like themselves. This is perhaps, on reason why I find it difficult to understand why people such as Kane and deadhand31 are such stuanch Sean Hannity listeners ... oops, I mean conservatives. I think that most people have the same ability it see and understand the duplicitousness of our current administration.
Here, however, Kane is saying that he thinks some Americans hate so much that they are likely to assassinate the President. This tells me that Kane is capable of
thinking such things.
Of course, if we assume that Kane is capable of assassinating a President, simple because he thinks others are, I think we will find a huge denial. Appropriately so.
The only other conclusion is that Kane has mentally purchased the argument of the 'Other'. "Those Democrats are not like Us Americans." "They don't love their country Like we do." "They are like the Russians of the 70's, athiestic, communists." "They don't love their children like we do." "The Iraqi's can't handle freedom."
Dehumanize. Where do you suppose this is being taught?
I am about as left as anybody on this board, and the most drastic thing I have called for is the President's Impeachment.
Tgace said:
Maybe Im a cynic, but I would say most of the issues being protested have more to do with "special interests" (sexual orientation issues, abortion, stem cells, $$, etc.) than any "Patriotic feelings and love of country". Not that those issues dont matter, but I feel many people dont feel much past their own self interests anymore.
Why are the two mutually exclusive?
"I love America because it is a free country, and as a woman, I should be free to do with my body what my morals and my doctor feel is appropriate."
"I love America because the protection against unreasonable searches and siezures guarantees that I can do whatever I would like with a consenting adult in the privacy of my bedroom."
"I love America because of its rich history of scientific research has provided bountiful benefits for citizens of the global community. I think the governement should support such research, rather than restrict it."
"I love America because I can be self-centered, egotistical and arrogant. Because we are CAPITALISTS (signed Ken Lay)".
