http://www.military.com/NewContent/0,13190,Gear_051104_XM8,00.htmlAnyone know more about this? Looks like something outta Star Trek.
HK XM-8 - Interesting weapon
- Thread starter Bob Hubbard
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That is, I believe, the weapon they demonstrated on one of the "sicence" channels... History, Discovery... etc...
Phenominaly cool weapon if it is the same one...
Phenominaly cool weapon if it is the same one...
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Baytor
Guest
I read about it in popular mechanics. Should be a good change for the military. Being able to customize depending on the mission is a good thing I think.
kelly keltner
Black Belt
I saw something simalar a few months back on a discovery or history chanel I don't remember which. I believe it was called the XM29 it had 20mm programable air burst ammo coupled with the .223 and maybe a shotgun. It had some ungodly weight problems and the manufacterer was looking for a way to make it lighter. This rifle looks like it may be a variant of that one.
kelly
kelly
OP
OP
kelly keltner said:
Yeah... thats the one I was thinking of.
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AnimEdge
Guest
All we have to do is wait on the machine gun ban to go away then we can 
I want one too
I want one too
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Mark Weiser
Guest
Combine this weapon with the new battle field suits/armour coming out and I will bet any amount of funds that the US SOLIDER will be able to walk into any battlefield and walk away the winner. Along with new bio technologies and GPS guideance systems for the small unit member. We may have to look for new opponents.
Starts looking at the sky
Starts looking at the sky
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Baytor
Guest
The planet Mars is harboring intergalactic terrorists. And yellow cake. Except it's Red...becuse it's on Mars.
IamBaytor said:
Mmm. Cake.
kelly keltner
Black Belt
Yeah you will be able to get one in every state except California(where I live) because they are banned here by state law.AnimEdge said:All we have to do is wait on the machine gun ban to go away then we can
I want one too
kelly
Tgace
Grandmaster
I would do away with the carry handle and get the optics a little closer to the bore line. I could never figure that out with the M-16 either (before the development of the removable handle). I was trained to never carry a weapon by the carry handle anyway.
Interesting "Land Warrior" site..
http://www.usma.edu/publicaffairs/PV/020719/Warrior2.htm
Interesting "Land Warrior" site..
http://www.usma.edu/publicaffairs/PV/020719/Warrior2.htm
Tgace
Grandmaster
Good Old H&K. Take a look at the G36C assault carbine. Its basically the same design except for the "Star Wars" chassis. Personally I like the design of this one better.
http://www.floridaairsoft.com/reviews/g36c/g36cleftgrip.jpg
http://www.floridaairsoft.com/reviews/g36c/g36cleftgrip.jpg
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Gaidheal
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Yeah, I was following the prototype but not looked in on it for a while...
This is pretty much the ultimate Assault Rifle as far as I am concerned... I mean it does everything:
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Squad level support fire? 20" barrel & bipod, drum magazine.
'Tactical' fire support (sniper)? 20" sharpshooter barrel, possibly a smaller magazine?
Standard Infantry role? 12.5" barrel, M16 style magazines (must be loads of them so they'll want to keep using them for a while...)
Tank crew PD? 9" barrel, no optics, small magazine.
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US Army would be idiots not to adopt it, frankly. As would any other army... sadly British Army persists with the ill-fated SA-80 POS.
John
This is pretty much the ultimate Assault Rifle as far as I am concerned... I mean it does everything:
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Squad level support fire? 20" barrel & bipod, drum magazine.
'Tactical' fire support (sniper)? 20" sharpshooter barrel, possibly a smaller magazine?
Standard Infantry role? 12.5" barrel, M16 style magazines (must be loads of them so they'll want to keep using them for a while...)
Tank crew PD? 9" barrel, no optics, small magazine.
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US Army would be idiots not to adopt it, frankly. As would any other army... sadly British Army persists with the ill-fated SA-80 POS.
John
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TonyM.
Guest
Bore line at too much angle, 5.56mm ineffective round, 20mm is almost uncommentable as the 40mm is a terribly weak grenade. Anouther scientific breakthrough ala Stoner to insure our boys look good on the field as they die.
Tgace
Grandmaster
Ahhh..the old 5.56 arguementTonyM. said:
. Ive seen some video/studies of police shootings with 5.56. Let me tell ya, when loaded with hollow point rounds, the 5.56 drops people like sacks of $%&!. Its the bizzare use of hardball by the military (can bomb, torch, run over with tanks, etc. but hollow points are inhumane??) that is the root of all the inadequate stop stories. One thing I do wonder about the use of 5.56mm....6.8 Remington looks berthed to launch as the new round of choice for the AR platform, why design a whole new weapon on 5.56?
As for 40mm being weak. I was actually impressed with how big a bang they made for the size. I recall engaging targets at 800+ meters with HE and having my chest rattle....
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Gaidheal
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5.56mm is not ineffective at all. Use of hardpoint is for penetration - most military targets (legitimate ones, anyway) are wearing body armour. Of course given recent US military history, they probably do need to start using hollowpoint.. civilians are usually not armoured. There is an interesting pistol (the Five-Seven) which uses a similar calibre and is designed specifically for military use - same company that gave us the P-90 smg.
John
John
