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[KingNoahTheThird]

Hi, so I've read a lot of threads on here and finally decided to post. I'm a 15 year old Taekwondo user, and I wanted to know if anyone could do some digging to make sure my school/instructors are legit? Here's the link to my school's website: Home | WCM Kicks

 

[JowGaWolf]

Hi, so I've read a lot of threads on here and finally decided to post. I'm a 15 year old Taekwondo user, and I wanted to know if anyone could do some digging to make sure my school/instructors are legit? Here's the link to my school's website: Home | WCM Kicks

Legit in what way? What do you have doubts about?

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Hiya, nice to meet you

 

[Hot Lunch]

Hi, so I've read a lot of threads on here and finally decided to post. I'm a 15 year old Taekwondo user, and I wanted to know if anyone could do some digging to make sure my school/instructors are legit? Here's the link to my school's website: Home | WCM Kicks

The only thing I can tell you is to research where he got his 7th degree black belt from, i.e., his lineage. That information is not on the website.

 

[KingNoahTheThird]

do you know how to do that?

 

[Hot Lunch]

do you know how to do that?

It's probably going to require some information that you're privy to that we're not. Furthermore, it's very presumptuous of you to ask others - let alone strangers - to do this type of legwork for you.

 

[KingNoahTheThird]

It's probably going to require some information that you're privy to that we're not. Furthermore, it's very presumptuous of you to ask others - let alone strangers - to do this type of legwork for you.

no I wasn't asking you TO do it, I was just asking if you knew how so you could explain how to do I could, sorry. I'm not THAT lazy lol

 

[Prince_Alarming]

With respect, you're likely to be the best judge of this. Are you learning things? Does the instruction suit you?

 

[JowGaWolf]

The biggest concern that I would have are the young master and zgrand master titles. Maybe the person managing the website got things mixed up. It looks like a performance focused school so I wouldn't expect it to be application heavy beyond a demo.

If fighting is your goal then simply ask them.

 

[KingNoahTheThird]

With respect, you're likely to be the best judge of this. Are you learning things? Does the instruction suit you?

yeah, I believe I am. I just worry about things like that sometimes when I can't find any info online.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Well there you go then

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

As asked, what do you mean by legit? Just that the main instructor has the rankings he's claiming in TKD and judo? If so, read below:

His website does not give a whole lot of information, so I'm going to assuming his "certified" rank is in KKW. If so, you could search the kukkiwon registry, but I believe you'd have to ask your instructor for his dan number (different than his rank, an actual number given when he got certified), to confirm. Tagging @andyjeffries just in case I'm wrong on that.

Regarding his judo rank, there are unfortunately a lot of different judo organizations out there, so without knowing which one he's a part of, it would be tough to state for certain how to verify.

Some instructors will show their certificates on the wall somewhere in the office. If he happens to do that (I'm assuming you're not looking to direct ask him) than you could take a look at those to get the info you need.

Beyond that, are you asking about tkd/judo in general, or if what they're teaching works, or something else?

 

[KingNoahTheThird]

As asked, what do you mean by legit? Just that the main instructor has the rankings he's claiming in TKD and judo? If so, read below:

His website does not give a whole lot of information, so I'm going to assuming his "certified" rank is in KKW. If so, you could search the kukkiwon registry, but I believe you'd have to ask your instructor for his dan number (different than his rank, an actual number given when he got certified), to confirm. Tagging @andyjeffries just in case I'm wrong on that.

Regarding his judo rank, there are unfortunately a lot of different judo organizations out there, so without knowing which one he's a part of, it would be tough to state for certain how to verify.

Some instructors will show their certificates on the wall somewhere in the office. If he happens to do that (I'm assuming you're not looking to direct ask him) than you could take a look at those to get the info you need.

Beyond that, are you asking about tkd/judo in general, or if what they're teaching works, or something else?

I was basically just asking to confirm that he was legit. It's a taekwondo dojang and I think it's just an irrational fear of McDojo even tho there aren't any signs pointing to it lol, so completely irrational. thanks though, I'm gonna do that.

 

[Buka]

Welcome to Martial Talk, Noah.

It’s really not up to us to make any assumptions. Can’t really know anything without going to that dojo in person.

What you might want to do is visit as many other dojos as you can, watch as many classes as you can, then speak to the people there. NOT about your dojo, but about theirs.

Good luck in your quest. Please keep us posted.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

I was basically just asking to confirm that he was legit. It's a taekwondo dojang and I think it's just an irrational fear of McDojo even tho there aren't any signs pointing to it lol, so completely irrational. thanks though, I'm gonna do that.

All the above would do is tell us if he has legitimacy with his organizations. Unfortunately, there's no way for us to tell just by that website if it's a mcdojo or not. Ignore the people claiming all TKD is mcdojos, and focus on if you A) enjoy it, and B) feel that you've gained actual skills from there. For instance, if you could not punch or kick previously, but now can land a side kick on someone else, in sparring, you've actively learned something you can use in fighting.

As Buka said, you can always go to other places, see what they offer, and see what fits your goals best.

 

[KingNoahTheThird]

All the above would do is tell us if he has legitimacy with his organizations. Unfortunately, there's no way for us to tell just by that website if it's a mcdojo or not. Ignore the people claiming all TKD is mcdojos, and focus on if you A) enjoy it, and B) feel that you've gained actual skills from there. For instance, if you could not punch or kick previously, but now can land a side kick on someone else, in sparring, you've actively learned something you can use in fighting.

As Buka said, you can always go to other places, see what they offer, and see what fits your goals best.

thanks, youre right. i do not thinks its a mcdojo and I'm gonna continue training.

 

[Simfers]

Hi there, welcome to our little community! I started in Tae Kwon Do myself 27 years ago this year, and it's been a hell of a gateway drug. Had a lot of fun in that one, hope you enjoy it!

 

[J. Pickard]

The only thing I can tell you is to research where he got his 7th degree black belt from, i.e., his lineage. That information is not on the website.

It's on the home page. It says hes a Kukkiwon 7th dan. As for the Judo, I cant find that listed.

 

[J. Pickard]

As other's have asked, what do you mean by legit? Sure his certification for TKD comes from a mostly reputable organization, Kukkiwon, but that doesn't mean much. The question I would have for you is first, why do you train/what is your goal? And second, is this dojang helping you achieve that? If your answer to the second is yes, then nothing else matters.

 

[Hot Lunch]

Sure his certification for TKD comes from a mostly reputable organization, Kukkiwon, but that doesn't mean much.

Kinda reminds me of that middle school conversation.

Jock: "Are you a virgin?"
Nerd: "No."
Jock: "Yeah? Who was she?

The nerd is either rendered speechless, or claims it was a girl from another state (thus, allowing him to stick to his story while denying the jock the ability to verify his claim).

Why did the jock ask the nerd "who was she?" Because they both know that the nerd can't lie about a girl that they both know, otherwise he'd be creating some big problems for himself. But whether the nerd is lying or telling the truth about a girl they both know, the jock has the ability verify with the girl that the nerd mentioned.

This is why the lineage stated on his website is important. Anyone can claim to be a 7th dan. But you allow yourself to be held accountable for your claim when you state where you got it from.