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[Monkey Turned Wolf]

The new school is so much better in the sense of wacht technique drills ends with 5 rounds of 2 minutes sparring. I do 3 technique drills a week and 1 heavy bag.

Is it all waste that i did train first 10 months only 4 sessions a week heavy bag? Out of those last 6 months 1 session technique drills with 2 rounds 0f sparring.

Now new gym since 3 april switched to much more technique drills. I feel i should have switched much earlier

It wasn't optimized, but that doesn't mean it was waste. You built the muscle memory and now you're learning to apply it. Unless they taught you actively bad form, so long as you were training it should help, and you'll have random 'aha' moments where you realize things you did on the bags are translating to sparring.

At the very least, it has helped you with cardio, and learning how to punch i a way to conserve your energy (even if you don't consciously realize, your body likely made those adjustments)

 

[HighKick]

The new school is so much better in the sense of wacht technique drills ends with 5 rounds of 2 minutes sparring. I do 3 technique drills a week and 1 heavy bag.

Is it all waste that i did train first 10 months only 4 sessions a week heavy bag? Out of those last 6 months 1 session technique drills with 2 rounds 0f sparring.

Now new gym since 3 april switched to much more technique drills. I feel i should have switched much earlier

Definitely not a waste. I imagine that is how you can go 5 rounds. How many times a week do you do that?

 

[Goldleaf]

Definitely not a waste. I imagine that is how you can go 5 rounds. How many times a week do you do that?

So, i am doing it 3-4 times a week and 1 heavy bag now. Last week only technique drills and 4 times with sparring no heavy bag.

I should keep doing heavy bag at least once a week. I noticed that my condition is good.

Yes, i do 5 rounds and am not tired. Sometimes i feel it but then in seconds i turn the button and go further. I see regular students getting a lot tired and no gas in the tank left.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

So, i am doing it 3-4 times a week and 1 heavy bag now. Last week only technique drills and 4 times with sparring no heavy bag.

I should keep doing heavy bag at least once a week. I noticed that my condition is good.

Yes, i do 5 rounds and am not tired. Sometimes i feel it but then in seconds i turn the button and go further. I see regular students getting a lot tired and no gas in the tank left.

5 rounds is a respectable amount of conditioning, good job!

 

[HighKick]

So, here's a reality check. This seems like a lot of training time but it's not.

To put it into perspective. Professional fighters train 4 to 6 hours a day, six days a week. One day of training equals one week of training for you.

While in my experience from my competition days 4-6 hours/day, 6-days/week is true, it is not and should Not be sustainable for the average person. Training at that intensity is 'leading up to a match' intensity. There should be more rest/recovery days factored in and the duration should be changed for the average Joe who has a life, family, work/school, etc...

In my case I did exactly what you mentioned for 3-years leading up to the Olympic Trials, all while working a 40-hour/week job, running our cattle operation, new MA's business, and newly married. It was Crazy! I will never regret it, but I don't recommend it for anyone.

Here is my point. Unless we are daily coaching the OP and fully understand their life demands, we are on sketchy ground telling them to 'do more'.

 

[JowGaWolf]

While in my experience from my competition days 4-6 hours/day, 6-days/week is true, it is not and should Not be sustainable for the average person. Training at that intensity is 'leading up to a match' intensity. There should be more rest/recovery days factored in and the duration should be changed for the average Joe who has a life, family, work/school, etc...

In my case I did exactly what you mentioned for 3-years leading up to the Olympic Trials, all while working a 40-hour/week job, running our cattle operation, new MA's business, and newly married. It was Crazy! I will never regret it, but I don't recommend it for anyone.

Here is my point. Unless we are daily coaching the OP and fully understand their life demands, we are on sketchy ground telling them to 'do more'.

Agreed I personally wouldn't recommend 2 hours workout for a 5 day training week. Most can get that extra hour a day. At worst the person may have to give up one activity for another. When I was serious I had 2 hours of training for 6 days and would adjust the intensity as needed to prevent burn out and injury. 3 hours a day would require me to give up something else. I enjoy my lazy time too much. I'm not giving up that lol. besides it's good to have that open time to just do whatever

 

[Goldleaf]

But 60 minutes sessions and that 5 says a week good enough? Btw few people who are the since few months said that i am pretty good
Lol, it is nice to hear but i don't see it

Now Total 115 roundes op sparring of total 2 minutes each.

 

[JowGaWolf]

But 60 minutes sessions and that 5 says a week good enough? Btw few people who are the since few months said that i am pretty good
Lol, it is nice to hear but i don't see it

Now Total 115 roundes op sparring of total 2 minutes each.

It depends on the type of training and the intensity being done during those sessions. 1hour for conditioning and 1 hour for technique application is reasonable. for most who train martial arts. Provided that the teacher or coach is good and effort is good then results will be productive growth.

I've had good results with people I've trained at 6 hours a week. For kung fu application training. Where only 1 hour a week dedicated to application training. That took 6 months but missing that 1 application training session was like missing 3 sessions. it makes the process longer.

Sparring was key but I don't think I would do more than two days of formal Sparring. The other days are good for reflecting on the previous Sparring and to analyze Sparring video. This allowed me to start the next Sparring session with more of a plan.

I personally have never seen my improvement beyond landing a technique. I think I called myself a beginner for 5 or 7 years. it wasn't until I saw video of people in the same system I train that I could see how much I improved. I watched one of a person who I think is more skilled than I am but when it comes to using Jow Ga Kung Fu I think I still have him beat by miles when I'm in shape. But that statement is from my 2 hour 5 day training program which I hope to get back to soon.

Give me someone willing to put in 2 hours and I'll train create a beast by the end of 1 year. Give me 3 hours and he or she will be a monster of Jow Ga Kung fu by the end of the year.

It took me 1 year to be OK. but that's only because I had to learn the hard way and make alot of mistakes. The conditioning part is the easiest part. Using a technique that you don't know if it will work is the most difficult part for kung fu.

 

[Goldleaf]

Thanks mate and thanks all. I ask questions where the answer is difficult to give.

But that said it is the most logic the harder and more i train the better it is.

Let' see