Fake cert.'s still around ?

[Shicomm]

I just came across this :



Seems that there are still fake rank cert.'s going around...

 

[terryl965]

There will always be fakes ones around it is the way of the warrior.:rofl:

 

[crushing]

There will always be fakes ones around it is the way of the warrior.:rofl:

Yes, isn't deception key to the art?

 

[Kichigai-no-Okami]

I just came across this :



Seems that there are still fake rank cert.'s going around...

Shi, who handed that out?

 

[ArmorOfGod]

Yes, isn't deception key to the art?

lol

 

[Shicomm]

Shi, who handed that out?

It's from someone in South-America but i'm yet unknown of further info.

 

[Monadnock]

Looks like some that come out of NY state too...

 

[Kreth]

Looks like some that come out of NY state too...

This is the first I've heard about it. Who's making up fake menkyo in NY?

 

[Monadnock]

This is the first I've heard about it. Who's making up fake menkyo in NY?

Well, I PM'd the original poster to ask what made that cert a fake, as I received one that looked just like it. But I haven't gotten a reply yet. Can anyone tell from that small pic why it is a fake? I was told there was a different kanji for "Tai" being used in Budo Tai-Jutsu, and I can see it in that pic.

So, I can't say with any certainty that anyone else is using them, just that mine looks an awful lot like it.

 

[Shicomm]

A cert. issued from hombu should have at least the stamps on it.
In allmost all cases it should contain the students name in regular writing as well.

 

[Monadnock]

A cert. issued from hombu should have at least the stamps on it.
In allmost all cases it should contain the students name in regular writing as well.

Thanks - got your PM as well!

 

[Bigshadow]

Should look something like this.... This is a low quality 320x240 picture from my phone, I took a while back, but you get the gist of it.

 

[blood shadow]

wow you pay all that money on training and thats all you get.id hang that up next to my toilet or on a dumpster.

 

[blood shadow]

id ask for a refund even the real one looks fake and when I say refund I meant the training too.

 

[jks9199]

wow you pay all that money on training and thats all you get.id hang that up next to my toilet or on a dumpster.

id ask for a refund even the real one looks fake and when I say refund I meant the training too.

The ornateness or lack thereof of a certificate has little to do with it's meaning to the student. Or with the quality of the training. In fact, in my experience, there is very often a very strong, INVERSE correlation between the impressiveness of a certificate and the impressiveness of the training...

Might I suggest if you aren't impressed by Bujinkan training, or that of any other school, you simply don't train there?

 

[Cryozombie]

This is the first I've heard about it. Who's making up fake menkyo in NY?

Its you isnt it?

 

[Kreth]

Its you isnt it?

Nah, if it was me the kanji where the rank normally is would actually say "#4 Shrimp Tempura." :lol:

 

[kagemaru74]

Nice Job Shicomm,
then can you give me his address

 

[Drac]

Log onto e-Bay,you can find certs of almost ANY rank and discipline...Some will come with a neat wood frame...Sad really..

 

[terryl965]

Log onto e-Bay,you can find certs of almost ANY rank and discipline...Some will come with a neat wood frame...Sad really..

It is they even sell some signed