Advice for hard punching with minimal padding, and still avoid ripping knuckle skin?

[Flying Crane]

Once again, stop patronizing me.

Oh c’mon son, nobody is patronizing you.

I don't give a damn about how you or others here are responding to me. IF anything, you're giving away your lack of experience. And I also don't care if you want to claim you've got 500 years of experience hitting a wooden post.

I never claimed 500 years of experience, kiddo. I wish I would live that long but I doubt it’s in the cards.

Honest question, have you ever wrapped your hand in boxing wraps? I've got enough experience with this to know that people who can't wrap their own hands, or never had theirs wrapped by a trained professional, are full of it.

I have, but never by a “trained professional”. I did not find it helpful. I found it unnecessary, for my purposes. Which are likely to be different from your purposes. Which is why I’ve said several times, you do you, I’ll do me.

Honest question: have you ever tried working on the heavy bag without gloves, wraps, or tape?

 

[Tony Dismukes]

Yes, different in that doing it without tape, wraps, gloves, or other equipment is always a bad idea.

Hitting a makiwara is antiquated and has no value to the modern martial artist.

I've only ever fought at the amateur level and I don't have a strong opinion one way or another regarding the makiwara.

But Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson would disagree with you. And I'd venture to say that he has more professional fight experience than anyone currently active on this forum.

 

[Tony Dismukes]

I get injured at least 3-4 times a week doing basic judo and boxing.

Setting aside any arguments about whether to wrap or not wrap the hands ...

Seriously?

I've been training martial arts for 44 years and combat sports (Muay Thai, BJJ, Judo, Boxing & Sumo) for about 26 years. Much of my time in combat sports has been spent working with professional and amateur fighters (Boxing, MMA, and Muay Thai). Some of the people I've trained with have been regional, national, or even world champions. I've had injuries. My friends/coaches/training partners who have fought professionally have had injuries.

I've never seen anyone in our gym or the pro fighter gyms or the Judo dojos I've visited getting injured 3-4 times per week. Even 3-4 injuries per month would be way too many. Unless you're counting every bump or bruise as an injury, that just isn't sustainable.

I'm hoping your statement was hyperbole. If not, please do yourself a favor and find a way to adjust your training to be safer. Being continually injured doesn't make you a better fighter. It just means that your martial arts career is going to be unnecessarily short.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

That's all well and good, but you are also peddling the same "conditioning" trope.

"I don’t doubt that wraps and gloves are a good advice to beginners or ring boxers.".

No, this is good advice to anyone who ever trains any striking martial arts. And the fact that you posted that statement just leads me to believe you, like @isshinryuronin and others, don't really have any experience with this.

I'm going to keep pushing this point because it's close to my heart, but there are tried and true reasons why combat sports people wrap, tape, and glove up. And then take care of themselves afterwards (which is out of scope for this silly thread).

There are lots of good reasons for boxers and ring fighters to wrap and tape and glove, no one is debating that. We are giving our experiences of how we train, you don’t have to like that. If you are getting injured as often as you say, then you really aren’t taking care of yourself very well. You still haven’t told us how long you’ve been training, your experience, or your age. This basically gives you troll status at this point. You keep prattling on and on, trying to convince people by insulting them, that’s literally what trolls do.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Apropos of nothing, is it possible to condition the face?

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Perhaps with face pushups or headbutting barrels of dried mung beans?

 

[Buka]

Apropos of nothing, is it possible to condition the face?

To properly address this issue, one must refer to the expert in the field.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

To properly address this issue, one must refer to the expert in the field.

I believe he advised British police forces at one point

 

[Prince_Alarming]

"Eritrea has an indigenous martial art called testa (from the Italian for "head") or riesy. It primarily focuses on headbutting."
So it must be possible... I wonder if testa practitioners tape and wrap their foreheads?

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Apropos of nothing, is it possible to condition the face?

No, I’ve done my model best, and I am still ugly.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

To properly address this issue, one must refer to the expert in the field.

He doesn’t even have wraps on his hands.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

He doesn’t even have wraps on his hands.

Maybe he beat the wrap

 

[Buka]

Maybe he beat the wrap

Rim shot!

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Maybe he beat the wrap

He can’t beat my rap. “ Now I’ve been known to break suckers off, hard type or soft, write em off, chalk em up as a loss…”

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

He can’t beat my rap. “ Now I’ve been known to break suckers off, hard type or soft, write em off, chalk em up as a loss…”

Next verse please.