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Patrick Skerry

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Here's a short list of American mixed martial arts I was able to research off the internet; please add to the list as you see fit:

1.) KAJUKENBO: America's first mixed martial art, 1947.
http://vbms.unl.edu/cirillo/Kaj.html

2.) JUKADO: America's second mixed martial art, 1957, founder Bruce Tegner.
http://www.geocities.com/brucetegnersociety/

3.) BUSHIDO-KA: A mixed martial arts club founded in 1970.
http://www.bushido-kai.net/hombu/img/Dojo_Brochure_Mindful_MA.pdf

4.) KETSUGO: A third American mixed martial art 1951, very big in Boston.
http://www.jujutsu.org/History/history.html

5.) MIYAMA-RYU: Another American mixed martial art New York City.
http://www.Miyamaryu.org

6.) ATEMI-RYU: American mixed martial art founded in 1959.
http://www.atemi-ryu.org/Pages/history.html

7.) RENRIKAN: mixed martial art in Boston, 1993
http://www.renrikan.com/

8.) AMERICAN JIU-JITSU: a mixed martial art of Hakko-ryu & Judo.
http://www.americanjiujitsu.net/

9.) HOLLISTON BU-KE-DO: A mixed martial arts academy 1987
http://www.bukedo.com/pages/about.htm
 

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Define MMA?

By what a lot of people mean by that term none of those count. Not only that but anything that would go on such a list would not....

It's a concept / sport / training method. Not a "style" or collection of styles.
 
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Each name listed considers itself a mixed martial art, and some have for decades! I know personally three sensei's listed on three names on that list and they all teach a "mixed martial art" and they advertise as such.



Andrew Green said:
Define MMA?

By what a lot of people mean by that term none of those count. Not only that but anything that would go on such a list would not....

It's a concept / sport / training method. Not a "style" or collection of styles.
 

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Patrick Skerry said:
Each name listed considers itself a mixed martial art, and some have for decades! I know personally three sensei's listed on three names on that list and they all teach a "mixed martial art" and they advertise as such.
So?

It turns into a word game, thats all.

But I would say that if the above are MMA, then almost all styles are MMA as they are derived from more then one source. Judo is MMA.

Anyone is free to call whatever they do whatever they want as long as the name they are using isn't protected by someone else.
 
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But Judo is not a mixed martial art, it is unique, and Dr. Jigoro Kano is internationally accepted as having developed a unique form of Budo!

The list I provided advertised themselves as a mixed martial art, and they do not claim to be be a unique style unlike any other, they even state that in their websites and brochures they hand out to students.

As a polite suggestion, maybe you should define what is a Mixed Martial Art?

Thank you.
Andrew Green said:
So?

It turns into a word game, thats all.

But I would say that if the above are MMA, then almost all styles are MMA as they are derived from more then one source. Judo is MMA.

Anyone is free to call whatever they do whatever they want as long as the name they are using isn't protected by someone else.
 

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Patrick Skerry said:
As a polite suggestion, maybe you should define what is a Mixed Martial Art?

Thank you.
See my first post, you're the one asking for a list of MMA. Define your question.
 

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No Jeet Kune Do??????????????? :waah:

By Defenition I guess The Named above are (Mixed Martial Arts)
 

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I thought you were going to list things like Ruas Vale Tudo and Militech Fighting System.
 
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This an interesting line of thinking or debate. Someone like myself who trains in American Kenpo, Dragon Kenpo, Jun Bao Whu Shu, Mzong Luo Kung Fu. I borrow techniques form each that works for me. I adapt a program for each student based on his or her strengths and weakeness making the MA adapt for each student. I would say this is the concept behind MMA.
 
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Hi Andrew,

Actually I provided a list of mixed martial arts and just requested anyone else to extend the list.

I would definately think that Jeet Kune Do is a mixed martial art without a doubt.
Andrew Green said:
See my first post, you're the one asking for a list of MMA. Define your question.
 

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ace said:
No Jeet Kune Do??????????????? :waah:

By Defenition I guess The Named above are (Mixed Martial Arts)

I belive what was thought of for Mixed Martial Arts
Would Be arts Such as ,, Pancrase,Shooto,Ruas Vale Tudo.

But that whould be a short cut in the
evolution of Mixing Arts to defeat The Weakness
each art has.

When I sit Back At Read this Thread
it shows me that once again there is nothing new
Under The Sun......

Mixed Martial Arts will continue to grow
& I see no wrong way in the cross roads...
 

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Mark Weiser said:
This an interesting line of thinking or debate. Someone like myself who trains in American Kenpo, Dragon Kenpo, Jun Bao Whu Shu, Mzong Luo Kung Fu. I borrow techniques form each that works for me. I adapt a program for each student based on his or her strengths and weakeness making the MA adapt for each student. I would say this is the concept behind MMA.


I agree This is Miixing Arts
 

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Patrick Skerry said:
Hi Andrew,

Actually I provided a list of mixed martial arts and just requested anyone else to extend the list.
Ok, but your list is still unclear as to exactly what it is of. It seems your criteria is that they call themselves such.

But the problem is that there are many different meanings for "Mixed Martial Arts", some of which contradict each other.

JKD was brought up.

Is Original JKD MMA?

JKD concepts?

That Functional JKD stuff?

At what point does something stop being MMA and it's own distinct art if you are using a "traditional" approach to MA? Judo was a mix of other arts, so was just about every classical style. Yet they don't get called that...

What is the criteria to meet your list?
 

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There is no Origanal JKD Vs New JKD
JKD is a Mixed Martial Arts Concept.

Bruce Took what was Usful & Deleted what was Usless.
He trained in Wing Chun with Yip Man
Boxing Xavier Team
Fencing With His Brother
Judo & Ju Jitsu with Wally Jay
Grappling with Gene Lebell
FMA with Dan Inasanto.


His writings teach us that he was
surching for personal truth.
His JKD would not be the Same as Dan Inosanto,Lary Hartsel
Leo Fong & So on..
 

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yup, I agree.... but then I look around and wonder if that is what it was what is going on?

Yay! Word games are fun!

Whatever, JKD is a name, and different people mean different things by it. For some it has become "Mimic Bruce Lee movies" which I suppose if that is what you are interested in doing isn't really a problem... except it confuses people as the name has no single meaning.
 

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Sure it does. Jeet Kune Do translates directly as the art of the intercepting fist. Beyond that, I have nothing to add to the "MMA debate".
 

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I consider my system a mixed martial art.
http://www.scientific-streetfighting.com/
Heres my definition of my system copied from my site.

KEMPO JU JITSU" is an Eclectic Martial Art that has traditional values with modern training applications. It has three phases, which represents the three phases of development from beginner to mastery. "KEMPO JU JITSU BASICS Phase 1" (Basic to Intermediate) is complete as a basic "STAND UP FIGHTING SYSTEM" with basic ground grappling but in the ultimate reality of combat is merely the beginning of our comprehensive STANDUP & GROUNDFIGHTING SYSTEM" based on the "THE AKJA METHOD OF TRAINING" which is a system of training in all ranges of combat with the belief that all fighting ranges should be understood and practiced together, practicing and understanding all of the AKJA curriculum focusing on what is most useful and specializing on what works best for you.

Heres a couple of pics of one of my students who is only 18 years old and is an up and coming fighter.
http://www.scientific-streetfighting.com/academypics.html
He and others will be attending the Jun Fan Beach Camp next summer at Huntington Beach hosted by Sifu William Holland and listed here.
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=292750#post292750

My Sifu Felix Macias is one of the featured instructors. We are both taking our students.
 

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The problem is like some have said, many arts are "mixed martial arts" and existed LONG before Bruce ever came on the scene contrary to some of the hype surrounding him.

The term "Mixed Martial Arts" as alot of people think of it today starts with the first UFC. It was to a good degree style vs. style, and then as time went on the contests became more style blended. In the genre of NHB fighting and events such as Pride, UFC, King of the Cage, etc. MMA usually refers to the "style" used in those contests which consists mainly of BJJ, boxing, wrestling, muay thai round kicks. You will still occasionaly see another MA in there but these are the most common ones seen in these contests.

I guess a better question would be in applying the MMA term, is it just a blend of 2 primarily striking arts such as Isshin-Ryu (Goju+Shorin) or a blend of primarily grappling arts such as Judo, or is it an MA that has combined a striking art with a grappling art (Pankration) to come up with something that addresses all ranges of fighting.
 

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I disagree That the UFC was the begining of
MMA Competion Pancrase,UWFI , Fujiwara Gumi, & S.A.W.

Were out long before the UFC..

& Jeet Kune Do means >> Way of Intersepting Fist
not Art of no bigy tho
 

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