1964 abduction and killing of three voter-registration volunteers revived

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First Murder Charge in '64 Civil Rights Killings of 3

[size=-1]By ROBERT D. McFADDEN [/size]
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Published: January 7, 2005

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he most infamous unresolved case from America's civil rights struggle four decades ago - the 1964 abduction and killing of three voter-registration volunteers by nightriders on a lonely rural road in Mississippi - was revived last night with the arrest of a longtime leader of the Ku Klux Klan, the authorities announced.

The suspect, Edgar Ray Killen, a 79-year-old preacher who, investigators say, organized and led two carloads of Klansmen on the night of the killings, was arrested at his home in Philadelphia, Miss., and charged with the murders of Michael Schwerner, Andrew Goodman and James Chaney, Sheriff Larry Myers of Neshoba County said.

The sheriff said there would be more arrests in the notorious case, which helped to cement Mississippi's image as a haven of hatred and violence in the 1960's, when black churches, homes and businesses were firebombed and civil rights volunteers were beaten by white mobs. The case was the subject of several books and was dramatized in the 1988 movie "Mississippi Burning."

The murders provoked an outpouring of national support for the civil rights movement, and in the ensuing investigations federal officials gathered enough evidence to prosecute 18 Klansmen in 1967 on charges of violating the civil rights of the three slain men.

Seven Klansmen were convicted and sentenced to prison terms ranging from 3 years to 10 years, although none served more than 6 years. Mr. Killen was released after there was a deadlock by an all-white jury.

But the state never brought murder charges in the case, and it was not until 1999 that the state's attorney general reopened the matter, after The Clarion-Ledger of Jackson, Miss., published exposés, including excerpts from a secret interview given to a state archivist by Sam Bowers, the onetime imperial wizard of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, America's most violent white supremacist group in the 1960's.

In the interview, Mr. Bowers, who was serving a life sentence for ordering the 1966 firebombing in Hattiesburg, Miss., that killed Vernon Dahmer, a prominent civil rights leader, said he had thwarted justice in the killings of Mr. Schwerner, Mr. Goodman and Mr. Chaney.

Mr. Bowers also said in the interview that he did not mind going to jail because a fellow Klansman had gotten away with murder.

A grand jury last year found sufficient evidence after 40 years to go ahead with the case, and its indictments led to Mr. Killen's arrest.

The slain civil rights workers - Mr. Chaney, 21, a black man from Meridian, Miss., and two white New Yorkers, Mr. Schwerner, 24, a Cornell graduate, and Mr. Goodman, 20, who had attended Queens College - were participating in what became known as Freedom Summer, the climax of an intensive voter-registration drive in the South.

Mr. Goodman's mother, Dr. Carolyn Goodman, said in a telephone interview from her apartment on the Upper West Side, "This was something that had to happen - there was no question."

Dr. Goodman, 89, has been actively involved in civil rights work since her son's death and has just completed a documentary about the killings, "Freedom Now." She said that her two other sons were out of the country and that she had not yet spoken with them about the arrest.

Dr. Goodman spoke from the apartment where, one day in 1964, Andrew told her that he was going to the South to do civil rights work.

"He said, 'Mom, you know, I was raised in an era of terrible things that have happened in my lifetime, so I have to go,' " she recalled.

She added: "It wasn't easy for us. But we couldn't talk out of both sides of our mouths. So I had to let him go."

Reached by phone at her home in Willingboro, N.J., Mr. Chaney's mother, Fannie Lee Chaney, said, "Mighty long time." Of those who took part in the killings, Mrs. Chaney said, "Most of them dead about now."

The victims were working with the Congress of Racial Equality at a community center in Meridian. Mr. Chaney had been a volunteer there for months. Mr. Schwerner had gone to Mississippi with his wife, Rita, in January 1964, having been hired as a CORE field worker. Mr. Goodman, a graduate of the Walden School on Manhattan's Upper West Side, arrived in Mississippi only a day before he was killed.

On June 21, 1964, the three men set out together in a Ford station wagon to inspect the ruins of a black church near Philadelphia, Miss., that had been firebombed by the Klan. Mr. Chaney was driving. In the afternoon, they were arrested for "speeding" by a Neshoba County deputy sheriff, Cecil Price. They were held at the sheriff's office in Philadelphia for several hours.

During those hours, according to testimony at the federal trial, Deputy Price sent out word that the three in custody included a man who had been designated Goatee - the Klan's code for Mr. Schwerner, who had a goatee and had been marked for death by Mr. Bowers. Mr. Schwerner had infuriated the Klan by organizing a boycott of a white-owned variety store until it hired a black, and by his intensive work to register black voters.

According to testimony in the federal trial, Deputy Price held the men long enough for Mr. Killen to round up a group of Klansmen. The civil rights workers were released from jail and were never seen again, although their subsequent movements were later established.

Leaving the jail that night, they drove down Route 19, tailed by Deputy Price and two carloads of Klansmen. After a frantic chase, they were caught and taken to an isolated spot on Rock Cut Road, where they were killed: Mr. Schwerner on Mr. Bowers's orders, and Mr. Chaney and Mr. Goodman because they were witnesses.

Mr. Chaney was beaten to death, while Mr. Schwerner and Mr. Goodman were each shot once in the chest. Their station wagon was set ablaze, and the bodies were buried under an earthen dam on the farm of a prominent Philadelphian, Olen Burrage.

Six weeks later, after one of the largest searches ever undertaken by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, helped by 200 American sailors, the bodies were discovered. In the ensuing federal investigation, 19 men were arrested on charges of violating the victims' civil rights, and 18 were eventually brought to trial three years after the killings. Mr. Bowers, Mr. Price and five others were convicted; three others were released because the jury found itself deadlocked. The rest were acquitted.

Mr. Killen, the man charged last night, is one of eight suspects still alive. He was identified during the 1967 trial as the Klan leader who had received the orders from Mr. Bowers to kill Mr. Schwerner, and as the man who had coordinated the Klansmen's activities on the night of the killings. But he was released with the jury deadlocked 11 to 1 in favor of conviction. The lone holdout insisted she could never convict a preacher.

Mr. Killen's arrest followed grand jury testimony that reportedly included accounts of people who had direct knowledge of the killings. Sheriff Myers declined to comment on the proceedings, but said Mr. Killen had been arrested first because he was prominent in the case and available.

"We went ahead and got him because he was high profile and we knew where he was," the sheriff said.

Mr. Killen has always denied any involvement in the slayings. In an interview with The Clarion-Ledger last year, he spoke about the killers of the civil rights workers. "I'm not going to say they were wrong," he declared. "I believe in self-defense."

Jerry G. Killen, the suspect's brother, told The Associated Press that he had no knowledge of the arrest but was quoted as saying he thought it was "pitiful." He said his brother never mentioned the slayings. "He won't talk about it," Jerry Killen said. "I don't know if he did it or not."

Mississippi has reopened some old civil rights murder cases. In 1994, Byron de la Beckwith was convicted of the 1963 assassination of Medgar Evers, a field secretary for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

A critical piece of evidence in the murder of the civil rights workers has been the 3,000-page transcript of the 1967 federal trial. Under the court rules in Mississippi, even the testimony of witnesses who have died or are unavailable can be put before a grand jury. Indeed, such testimony was used to convict Mr. de la Beckwith, who died in prison in 2001.

While the killings of the civil rights workers have remained in the public eye over the years, there was little progress in the case until it was reopened by Attorney General Jim Hood. Last month, an anonymous donor posted a $100,000 reward for information leading to murder charges.

Outside the grand jury room yesterday, Billy Wayne Posey, one of the men convicted in the federal trial, leaned on a cane and complained about being subpoenaed.

"After 40 years to come back and do something like this is ridiculous, like a nightmare," Mr. Posey said. He refused to talk about what he expected to be asked by the grand jury.

Efforts to bring about a trial for the murder of civil rights workers in Mississippi have been enhanced in recent years by the opening of the long-secret files of the State Sovereignty Commission, which was founded in 1956 to defend the state from "encroachment" by federal authorities. Before it was abolished in 1977, the commission monitored anyone suspected of promoting racial integration. Containing 87,000 names, the files detail a series of Klan killings in the 1960's, including those of Mr. Evers and Mr. Dahmer, as well as those of Mr. Schwerner, Mr. Chaney and Mr. Goodman.

They also detail the profound hatred that many white Mississippians held for civil rights workers. In 1964, a wave of thousands of civil rights activists, many of them white college students from the North, went to Mississippi and other states in the South as part of a broad coalition to end the political disenfranchisement of black people.

Within a month of the murders, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.



Jerry Mitchell contributed reporting from Mississippi for this article, and Michelle O'Donnell from New York.

I knew Andy Goodman. I hope this provides a close to things for everyone.
 
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First, something from, nationalist.org (aka whitebigot.org):

Moore meets Killen, supports Constitution

Alabama Justice unhurried with Sixties' anti-Communist

***** MERIDIAN - Edgar Ray Killen, the octogenarian who the Bush Administration wants to re-try for running Communists out of Neshoba County during the Sixties, has met with embattled Alabama Justice Roy Moore. Killen said that he asked Moore for "a moment of your time" in Meridian, but that Moore shot back, "You can have all night, if you want." Moore denounced "trampling on the Constitution."

Here's the the very next article:


World Watch

Hackney demands apology from Sisk for sullying Confederate flag

Man arrested on drug charges had hosted Internet defamer of Nationalists

***** GULFPORT - A man arrested on drug-charges, who had hoisted a fifty-foot Confederate flag, owes an apology for slandering the segregationist cause, according to Barry Hackney. Sisk, whose flag could be seen from Highway 49 near Gulfport, was nabbed following a five-year investigation. Police seized chemicals and drug-paraphernalia from his trailer, in which Shannon Shackleford, a parole-violator from Indiana, was also arrested.

***** Hackney, a leading flag-activist, said that "we need to deport aliens and jail criminals" and that Sisk had sullied the flag through his criminal activity. Sisk, who was charged with selling marijuana and crystal meth, had once hosted Jim Giles, who had been kicked off the Internet for defamation and trademark-infringement against Nationalists. Sisk was arrested in 2001 at his "flag-raising" ceremony for assaulting the police. Giles was later arrested on similar charges. According to Hackney, the flag is a symbol of the "fight against Communism" and for "majority-rights."


There was in fact a first trial over Goodman, Schwerner and Chaney, detailed at a website at the law school at UMKC, at which John Doar--best known through the movie "Mississippi Burning"--prosecuted. Killen walked, on a hung jury; several other defendants were convicted:

"Judge Cox sentenced Wayne Roberts and Samuel Bowers to ten years each. The other convicted defendants received either five or three-year sentences. Cox later said, 'They killed one ******, one Jew, and a white man. I gave them all what I thought they deserved.'”

As the trial began, this was apparently the scene outside the courthouse:

"Trial proceedings began on Monday, October 9, 1967 in the white stone federal building in Meridian. Across the street front the courthouse, in front of Bill Gordon’s barber shop, Raymond Roberts, the brother of one of the defendants, placed a large Confederate flag, bringing cheers from onlookers. Barricades set up by Meridian police to keep cameramen off the grounds surrounded the federal building. Two federal marshals stood on the courthouse steps to further discourage anyone who might think of climbing over the barricades. Inside the building, a crowd of jurors, witnesses and reporters gathered outside the second-floor courtroom. As the 350 members of the jury venire waited for the nine o’clock start of the proceedings, they nervously shifted their weight from foot to foot and talked in low tones."

Why, look away there. The "Stainless Banner." Good luck with the Zout.
 
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Robert - So you saw my secondary reason for posting this.

There were companion articles to the one I posted. The recurring theme was that most people interviewed (also) didn't feel that it was a big deal that Schwerner, Chaney and Andy were murdered -- excuse me, tortured, murdered, and immolated.

It amazes me that such virulent hatred and bigotry still exist, hidden behind loyalty to a flag and a long-dead cause.
 
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Apparently, the chief defendant this time around is 80+ years old--must be embarassment since that TV show, "Cold Case," came out...

Regrettably, however, the continuing bigotry, hatred, violence doesn't surprise in the least. While things have improved radically, on other levels there's still the same crap--just sneakier.

One of the reasons it's gotten sneakier is that the ideologues are, if not a bit smarter, cleverer in promulgating ideology. For example, there's the whole weasel litany that, "Racism and sexism are things of the past. Now, everybody's treated equally. In fact, too equally. In fact, these black people and women--they don't want an equal chance, they want MORE than an equal chance. They want AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, which is ridiculous because everybody has an equal chance. Except us white straight men who worship God. WE'RE the ones who are discriminated against, now...you can't pray in schools, which you need to do because THEY have all the good jobs...," and so on and on and on and mind-numbingly on.

Another aspect is the rehabbing of groups like the Confederacy and the Klan, together with the rewriting of history, so that terms like, "State's Rights," magically get wiped clean of their intimate connections to events such as this racist murder of three decent people for the crime of registering voters.

The good news, though, is folks like John Doar (prosecutor at the first trial) and Morris Dees (Southern Poverty Law Center, attacked personally on ALL the Confederate and "Southern pride," websites). Read about their lives, and the "courage," and "honor," of the Lees and the Forrests--and the Custers, too, for that matter--shrivel to their proper sizes.

Incidentally, good old Augusto Pinochet is about to go on trial too, finally. It is a matter of some embarassment to those of us in kenpo--or it should be--that Mr. parker personally handed that SOB a black belt...I've seen the picture.

Ick.
 
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Robert,

Will look up Doar and Dees.

I had no idea that Mr. Parker gave Pinochet a black belt. He couldn't have been aware of his political leanings.

Or maybe I'm being naive. Wouldn't be the first time.
 
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It was in Chile in the late 1970s/early 80s. He had to have known.

Doar and Dees rock.
 
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Part of his celebrity coterie, I guess. Disappointing.

I'm almost through Doar's biographical notes -- notes is a misnomer. The site I've found is rather exhaustive of his exploits. Will get to Dees next.

Quite the cast of characters involved in this. Having grown up in an integrated environment, it's alien to me.
 

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Sad, frustruating, fascinating as to reactions now, so many years later....
 
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Philadelphia, Ms. is now the site of a luxury hotel ( believe it ) a plush casino on Indian lands and two very nice golf courses. It all seems a bit unreal to read about 1967. On the other hand, scratch the surface and who knows?
Neshoba County was nicknamed Bloody Neshoba and it was pretty well known as a place to stay away from when I was younger.
Judge Cox was, politely put, irascible, arrogant and short tempered by reputation. The sort of judge who thought he was the law, I guess.

Giving credit where it is due, these are state charges handed down by a Mississippi grand jury. Perhaps there is such a thing as progress. But before declaring a love in, let's see how the trial turns out. Witnesses are likely to be dead, incapacitated or just plain gone. Evidence has spoiled, been lost or thrown away. Convictions in old cases are difficult under the best of circumstances and it will take a determined and committed prosecutor to pursue this successfully.
We'll see.
 
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"The Patriotist," website describes itself as extremely conservative and right-wing. It contains the usual rants--feminism is evil, the Confederacy did nothing wrong, slavery wasn't all that bad/the South was wiping outslavery/anyway the North had it too, papists (aka "Catholics") are evil, this country was founded by white Christian men, etc. etc., yada yada yada.

It might be best to look up an actual source of information. One feels sure that if we look hard enough, this site's gotta be linked to the ones covering the Nazi flying saucers.
 
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Three very loud cheers for great investigative skills. Now it’s up to justice to prevail. As a 17 year kid just out of the US Naval Training Center in Bainbridge, MD, I was stationed to my first assignment at the Naval Air Station in Jacksonville, FL. Coming from Brooklyn I was severely traumatized by the segregation of the South.

Back then I weighed in at a whopping 147 lbs. I was so skinny that if I stood sideways and stuck out my tongue I looked like a zipper. I will never forget when they (the Shore Patrol) took a few of us who came down together to Ashley Street. This is what we were told: Pointing to the black guys he said, "you take your liberty on this side of Ashley Street." Pointing to us white guys he said, "and you take it from this side of Ashley Street."

I will never forget the sickening feeling in my stomach when I realized what was happening. Then We all began to notice two of everything. Two public drinking fountains clearly marked with large signs: "White Only," Colored Only." Two sets of toilets. Even the waiting lines for public transportation were marked the same. Of course the whites got on the bus first.

There was this young black girl (18 yrs old) who worked on the base in the canteen. Her dad was stationed on the base. She and I had a thing for each other and dated. Of course we could not leave the base. I got a few good butt whippings from several southern sailors who were stationed there. Their bigotry still haunts me to this day. We really loved each other. After about few months of sneaking around we were also found out by her dad. For sure he was not amused. He threatened to kick my butt worse than "those damn crackers did." Shortly after he was transferred and I never saw "Jannah" again.

For the past eighteen years I have lived n South Florida and I still get a flash back from time to time when I am in a restaurant. My wife can always tell when it happens. We will be eating and some non white people come in and sit down. I momentarily go back to the five of us being escorted out of a diner when we all sat at a "white only counter." We had no idea what we were doing. Then I think, my daughter-in-law, grand children and I would not have been able to do this if we were living back then. What a terrible time.

Shortly, my family and I will go to Jacksonville for only one purpose, so I can cross Ashley and hopefully kill the ghost of 1956. It won’t mean anything to anyone else, but it will mean something to me. We will document it. A reporter from the Palm Beach Post will join us.

When we first moved here in 1987, there was a big KKK rally being held West of I-95 in the town of Lantana. People were up in arms over the rally which was held on private property. I was standing at the top of the South Bound off ramp with a sign that said, NO WAY K.K.K., when someone shot at me with a small caliber gun. Thank God I was not hit.

Bigotry really stinks. I am so glad that Edgar Ray Killen was finally caught. I can’t wait to see how much he will enjoy his black prison inmates, or better still, how much they will enjoy him. And to think that this dude is a preacher.

Oh well, enough of my rambling, but I do feel better. "The Dream" is still very much alive!"
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rmcrobertson said:
"The Patriotist," website describes itself as extremely conservative and right-wing. It contains the usual rants--feminism is evil, the Confederacy did nothing wrong, slavery wasn't all that bad/the South was wiping outslavery/anyway the North had it too, papists (aka "Catholics") are evil, this country was founded by white Christian men, etc. etc., yada yada yada.

It might be best to look up an actual source of information. One feels sure that if we look hard enough, this site's gotta be linked to the ones covering the Nazi flying saucers.
Got it.

No sites that disagree with the Official History of the US.
(website checklist - must list South as evil, slavery as bad, woman as superior, Catholics as not involved in evil. Bonus points if they are in a blue state)

*Makes note to double check on that UFO thing*
**Makes second note to stock up on barf bags and hip waders for the trek through said site**

Interestingly enough, a google search on Morris Dees turns up a huge amount of "negative", outlining assaults, child molestation, etc.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=9622

It seems that a good number of people dislike him incredible, and a seeming equal number have him "up high" like a sainted warrior. So far, there seems to be little overlap or refuting of the negatives claims.

Too hard to seperate the bull from the cow here. I'll go back to reading about the other guy who didn't turn up a 40-60% "nut" ratio.


As to the original issue, it is good they are able to finally bring these bastards to justice, but really, someone in their 70's or 80's, what does a death sentence really mean? A few years less in wearing depends and getting lost on their way to the can? Will it really send a message to those morons alive today not to be racist sonsofbitches? Or will it say "Hey, do a race crime. It'll take us 40 years to track your *** down. Plenty of time to learn Spanish and move to Brazil."

The ones I feel sorry for are the friends and familes of those boys. I'm sure they are feeling the pain again. Too much pain in this world.
 
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Good Morning,

You are right, the death penality at this stage of his life is not worth much. It would be showing him mercy. If it were up tp me, he would have to spend the rest of his miserable life in more miserable surroundings.

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kenpo tiger said:
First Murder Charge in '64 Civil Rights Killings of 3
I knew Andy Goodman. I hope this provides a close to things for everyone.
Anne, thank you for posting this. I sincerely hope this has given you some closure. I also had a friend who was killed, but not in as horrible a manner as these poor people were (the guy who shot him had a lot of problems & turned the gun on himself afterward). I can't imagine what you've gone through these past 40 yrs. However, I am glad to hear that slowly but surely all (or some) of the perpetrators of crimes from the Civil Rights Era are being brought to justice, regardless of how old they are. I agree with the earlier post that the death penalty would be too easy for these people & that they should spend the rest of their miserable lives in prison.

I am very grateful that I grew up in a better time & place.

Sincerely,
Gin-Gin :asian:
 
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Dear Gully Foyle:

Apologies for taking a scholarly approach to research, one in which sites such as The Patriotist are considered to be interesting exposes of bias and ideology, rather than impartial sources. As a counterpose, you've claimed that a Google search of Morris Dees turns up all sorts of ills, including," "child molestation," nice touch that, since you offer no evidence whatsoever.

Incidentally, that particular charming little claim appears only on something called, "zianet," which published what looks like an affidavit and says, "We make no claims whasoever about veracity," and a charming little website whose address is something like, "www. kkk. kikefagjew.com"

What you do offer is a David Horowitz link, which says very little about dees or anything else, except for a rant about a book discussing Horowitz's ideas and history written by somebody else entirely. FYI, Horowitz makes his living lecturing on the evils of liberals and the Left: he's a born-again right-winger, and well known for it.

These are hardly impartial, balanced sources. And despite the bizarre idea that All Issues Have Two Sides when most have more, some have only one decent side (Alexander Cockburn used to write this very funny stuff about "TONIGHT! Simon Legree and Frederick Douglass debate the Two Sides of Slavery!"), and--from a scholarly point of view--many have no proper sides at all.

Dees, FYI, was the lawyer who stuck it to the Klan a few years back.

But since Horowitz and the Patriotist bunch spend a lot of their time whitewashing--and one does mean whitewashing--American history, one would think you'd at least pause for a second, after the Prof's eyewitness account.

Good luck with the Zout.
 
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The Prof,

A very compelling story. When you do cross Ashley, give us the citation for the story so we can all see it -- or post it.

Jynne,

Thank you.
 

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Dear Professor R.
I, unlike others here do not care to play point-counterpoint patty cake with you. I simply do not have the time. You find fault in anyone other than your own sources, constantly ignore evidence that refutes your positions, and seem to have the opinion that "white male america" somehow owes payback to everyone else.

My points were this:
* Dees has questions in his background. The fact that as you said "ALL the Pro-Confederate sites dislike him" says something to me. That you are biased is part of it. Some of those sites are very active in promoting positive race relations, yet will never find favor in your eyes.
* Doar on the other hand looks to be a much more positive example, as it is difficult to find much if anything negative about him.
* There is no such thing, especially where you are concerned, with an unbiased source. There is only the good ones (yours) and the bad, biased, wrong ones (anyone elses).
* I question the effectiveness of punishment now, as either punishment or a deterrent.
* I am very glad to see some more closure for those people effected by those crimes.

I suggest anyone interested in those 2 individuals you mentioned do a Google Search, read what comes up, and make up their own minds. Some of those sites are pure crap, yes. Some are very good sites that simply do not fit into your "world view" of political correctness. I say, read, research, and make up your own mind.

Good Day Professor.



To kenpo tiger, Gin-Gin, and others:
My apologies for that rant. You have my heartfelt sympathies for your losses, which so long ago are still there. Those brave souls have my eternal admiration and gratitude that for their bravery and sacrifice we have progressed this far. I hope that those vicious crimes are finally brought to closure and the memories of those lost in the war for equality are never forgotten.

Peace.
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Dear Gully Foyle:

Since you've brought up the "professor," issue in an insulting fashion, let me note something about us pointy-head types:

We know how to do research.

Among other things, we tend to want a) specific references, b) to avoid obvious bias, c) to undersand why bias exists in writings.

Morris Dees--and this writer cannot claim enormous research of his background--sued the Klan several years back, on behalf of a woman's lynched husband. His side won. Any chance that there might be a few out-and-out racist, obviously-biased attacks on the Web as a result?

It would be part of everyday decent scholarship to note that an unverified document posted anonymously on a website, and posted elsewhere on a site with the charming address, "kkk.fagjew," might perhaps not be the best available source.

It might also be part of everyday scholarship, for us Ivory Tower (would that that were true!) hopeless liberals (oops, wrong AGAIN) to note that these unsubstantiated claims about all that these Confederacy-was-right sites do to improve race relations aren't exactly well-documented. Would you mind posting such documentation? One is always happy to find new things--it's just that writing as a professor, one has got, regrettably, this old-fashioned preference for facts, texts, and footnotes over unsubstantiated and hasty claims.

But perhaps it would be best for readers to look up David Horowitz, one of the writers previously noted by the college prof, and compare his career to Dees'.
 
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